Liverpool (A) Post Match Thread

BluessinceHydeRoad said:
All the stories written before a ball had been kicked describing how Salah returned to form gloriously, how Klopp out thought Pep yet again and how City were blown away by a mighty Liverpool tornado urged on by a packed Kop which unnerved City by screeching 1950s musicals had to be ripped up. The new line was how Pep had been forced to abandon his principles and turn a game against the best attacking team in the world into a goalless snore draw. Pep is even at fault for entrusting a potentially match winning penalty to a serial penalty misser.

Mahrez did miss a penalty, but that's all he did. Pep trusted him and he missed it. He didn't commit high treason, he didn't kill anyone and he didn't throw a brick at a coach. He missed a penalty. And I'm glad to report that City players consoled him, John Stones gave him support in the post match interviews, he did not have to leave the pitch on his own like a leper and I don't believe there has been any nonsense like death threats from demented "fans" - unlike the fate of a certain goalkeeper who offended that cheery bunch of scousers at the other end of the east Lancs road. City are a team and a club, and I'm proud to say they behaved with a dignity and class quite alien to our opponents yesterday.

As for the match yesterday, I thought it was intriguing but quite clearly Pep out thought Klopp. City lined up with a back four in a normal Guardiola 4-3-3 and Klopp expected the normal splitting of the CBs and the advanced full backs. This was naive as the last thing Pep was likely to do was order his troops to throw themselves on Liverpool's sword. All four of our back line showed admirable discipline and Liverpool were shown to be completely devoid of ideas when deprived of space behind the full backs and Mendy, in particular, was careful always to prevent Salah cutting inside onto his left foot. This is why Salah "looked a pale shadow of last season's player". I can't remember Ederson having a save to make in the entire match (and City were able to play out from the back in relative comfort). Part of the reason is that Liverpool's fullbacks didn't push up, as they have tended to stay deeper this season and because City's midfield is better than theirs and will exploit the space either side of their CB's. As the game wore on only one side looked likely to score. The penalty was the clearest opportunity but these things happen.
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Good stuff. Spot on and well written.
 
shevtheblue said:
Not sure how people could think that was a boring game, it was a masterclass from Pep. The reasoning behind playing Mahrez were not apparent to begin with but as the game went on it was clear as day, he got the ball and kept it, slowed the pace down as Liverpool want it to be as fast as possible to transition between phases of play. Everyone played their role to a tee, maybe Mendy was a bit missing on that but its understandable. Bringing on Sane was probably how Pep had envisioned we would win this game and it nearly came off! Excellent performance, excellent game and its exactly how i want us to approach Liverpool, don't play to their strengths but accentuate their weaknesses and then counter them. Imagine if we would have had Kev.
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I didn’t find it boring but I’m sure the non City and Liverpool fans watching maybe did!
 
r.soleofsalford said:
Top Of the league without KDB and having the hardest start between Us, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Our games against Arsenal A, 3 points , Liverpool A, 1 point (missed pen) and Wolves A 1 point. goal against us was hand ball
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You could argue Arsenal have had a fairly
Tricky one with us and Chelsea up first.

I love how Wolves have suddenly become one of the teams to beat. We should have won there. That was a disappointing result for me. Yesterday was a good one.
 
shevtheblue said:
Not sure how people could think that was a boring game, it was a masterclass from Pep. The reasoning behind playing Mahrez were not apparent to begin with but as the game went on it was clear as day, he got the ball and kept it, slowed the pace down as Liverpool want it to be as fast as possible to transition between phases of play. Everyone played their role to a tee, maybe Mendy was a bit missing on that but its understandable. Bringing on Sane was probably how Pep had envisioned we would win this game and it nearly came off! Excellent performance, excellent game and its exactly how i want us to approach Liverpool, don't play to their strengths but accentuate their weaknesses and then counter them. Imagine if we would have had Kev.
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Perfect post. Pep has figured them out.
 
Corky said:
Boring game but a point will do despite the penalty miss.

Too many city fans jumping on the fake hatred of liverpool band wagon, with the united songs, very different from 10 years ago or even 6.
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I did not find it boring.
 
Corky said:
Boring game but a point will do despite the penalty miss.

Too many city fans jumping on the fake hatred of liverpool band wagon, with the united songs, very different from 10 years ago or even 6.
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Boring??
And regarding the fake hatred; i had a softish for lfc from the 70's onwards. Great teams and great players. Wasn't overkeen on the scouse hoolie during the 80's but enjoyed them giving the rags shit. In fact i had no issues with the scouse family up until a couple of seasons ago. I find their treatment of Sterling annoying and wondered at the hypocrisy given Coutinho couldn't get out fast enough and they still cheered him.
Then we had the chumps league debacle, sponsored by the club, coppers and blind ref's. Seeing those twats bricking the bus pissed me right off. Normally i'd have wanted them to go on and win the comp' but i laughed my cock off at Ramos' masterful fucking up of their 'destiny'.
On top of all that, the fuckers slagging Sterling off when playing for England finally did it for me and now i will happily give any red scouse the shite they deserve, and there will be nothing 'fake' about it.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
As for the match yesterday, I thought it was intriguing but quite clearly Pep out thought Klopp.
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Cracking post but I've selected this bit. Pep did out-think Klopp and he couldn't respond. So now the boot is on their foot and Klopp has to work out how to beat Pep. I don't think he'll find that quite so easy as I think that he's a good coach but a bit one-dimensional.

We've all seen the Liverpool plan. Press like hell for 15-20 minutes. Catch the opposition, particularly an open team like us, on the hop. Score a goal or two then sit back, have a bit of a breather and go more compact, with the press deeper and let the opposition come at them. Win the ball and get it forward to the front three quickly. Then for the last 20 minutes, when they''re completely knackered, withdraw to your own final third and sit tight.
 
Great point as you could see in Klopps face that he knew his team will not be good enough to win it this season.

As WilfWild1937 (RIP) said to me when I visited him in hospital, Liverpool are scared of united and they will drop more points than we do against them and others now.
 
stonerblue said:
Boring??
And regarding the fake hatred; i had a softish for lfc from the 70's onwards. Great teams and great players. Wasn't overkeen on the scouse hoolie during the 80's but enjoyed them giving the rags shit. In fact i had no issues with the scouse family up until a couple of seasons ago. I find their treatment of Sterling annoying and wondered at the hypocrisy given Coutinho couldn't get out fast enough and they still cheered him.
Then we had the chumps league debacle, sponsored by the club, coppers and blind ref's. Seeing those twats bricking the bus pissed me right off. Normally i'd have wanted them to go on and win the comp' but i laughed my cock off at Ramos' masterful fucking up of their 'destiny'.
On top of all that, the fuckers slagging Sterling off when playing for England finally did it for me and now i will happily give any red scouse the shite they deserve, and there will be nothing 'fake' about it.
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Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
I will always hate Utd the most, just elevated these wankers above Tottenham that’s all.
 
stonerblue said:
Boring??
And regarding the fake hatred; i had a softish for lfc from the 70's onwards. Great teams and great players. Wasn't overkeen on the scouse hoolie during the 80's but enjoyed them giving the rags shit. In fact i had no issues with the scouse family up until a couple of seasons ago. I find their treatment of Sterling annoying and wondered at the hypocrisy given Coutinho couldn't get out fast enough and they still cheered him.
Then we had the chumps league debacle, sponsored by the club, coppers and blind ref's. Seeing those twats bricking the bus pissed me right off. Normally i'd have wanted them to go on and win the comp' but i laughed my cock off at Ramos' masterful fucking up of their 'destiny'.
On top of all that, the fuckers slagging Sterling off when playing for England finally did it for me and now i will happily give any red scouse the shite they deserve, and there will be nothing 'fake' about it.
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There's a list as long as your arm of reasons to hate Liverpool. Well, Liverpool fans anyway.

But unfortunately, we still have some fans who are too insecure to hate any club except for United.

Their whole reason for existing is to hate United and they're so hurt by it that they can't comprehend how anyone could hate another club.
 
stonerblue said:
Boring??
And regarding the fake hatred; i had a softish for lfc from the 70's onwards. Great teams and great players. Wasn't overkeen on the scouse hoolie during the 80's but enjoyed them giving the rags shit. In fact i had no issues with the scouse family up until a couple of seasons ago. I find their treatment of Sterling annoying and wondered at the hypocrisy given Coutinho couldn't get out fast enough and they still cheered him.
Then we had the chumps league debacle, sponsored by the club, coppers and blind ref's. Seeing those twats bricking the bus pissed me right off. Normally i'd have wanted them to go on and win the comp' but i laughed my cock off at Ramos' masterful fucking up of their 'destiny'.
On top of all that, the fuckers slagging Sterling off when playing for England finally did it for me and now i will happily give any red scouse the shite they deserve, and there will be nothing 'fake' about it.
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People are showing their age when they try and make out a full decade(if not more) isn't a bloody long time to begin with. Having said that there are plenty of blues have have hated them from the 70s and before it.
 
Corky said:
Boring game but a point will do despite the penalty miss.

Too many city fans jumping on the fake hatred of liverpool band wagon, with the united songs, very different from 10 years ago or even 6.
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But not for anyone who was at Anfield in the 1970s.

Most horrible bunch of ****s ever, bar none.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Cracking post but I've selected this bit. Pep did out-think Klopp and he couldn't respond. So now the boot is on their foot and Klopp has to work out how to beat Pep. I don't think he'll find that quite so easy as I think that he's a good coach but a bit one-dimensional.

We've all seen the Liverpool plan. Press like hell for 15-20 minutes. Catch the opposition, particularly an open team like us, on the hop. Score a goal or two then sit back, have a bit of a breather and go more compact, with the press deeper and let the opposition come at them. Win the ball and get it forward to the front three quickly. Then for the last 20 minutes, when they''re completely knackered, withdraw to your own final third and sit tight.
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It’s a nice psychological blow that after their best start they are third, we now have KDB and having expected to be 3 points ahead they are level with a worse goal diff. Nice!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Cracking post but I've selected this bit. Pep did out-think Klopp and he couldn't respond. So now the boot is on their foot and Klopp has to work out how to beat Pep. I don't think he'll find that quite so easy as I think that he's a good coach but a bit one-dimensional.

We've all seen the Liverpool plan. Press like hell for 15-20 minutes. Catch the opposition, particularly an open team like us, on the hop. Score a goal or two then sit back, have a bit of a breather and go more compact, with the press deeper and let the opposition come at them. Win the ball and get it forward to the front three quickly. Then for the last 20 minutes, when they''re completely knackered, withdraw to your own final third and sit tight.
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As I've just posted on another thread, imo where we, & other teams have fucked up against Liverpool, is often playing for a press that isn't there.

Most of the time when they have 'won' the ball, they have actually had it passed to them. They mostly start legging it about, when the ball comes out into their areas. We usually oblige by trying to play through exactly the area they are making it difficult for us to play through. They wait til we have a stutter, then pounce on it.

We often make the mistake (as do others) of passing the ball out into areas Liverpool have designated as 'kill zones' where they will pile in, to press the ball.

We just refused to join in, hence the 'boring' jibes. They don't want to press us in our box, because it takes half their team out of position. So they stood scratching their heads wondering whether to go, or stick, when we passed it back there.

As you say, if you get this right, they simply don't have the legs to keep chasing the ball around.

Of course the rags have plan B, where they just boot it down the middle.
 
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