Mendy & Walker is the width.
I understand what you mean about lightweight but the only other option would be to replace one of the silvas with Gundogen, which wouldn't make us much more solid.
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Liverpool (a) pre-match thread
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Mendy & Walker is the width.
I understand what you mean about lightweight but the only other option would be to replace one of the silvas with Gundogen, which wouldn't make us much more solid.
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I would play 4 at the back but Stones and Ferny in midfield with Sane Silva Sterling and Aguero up top. Bernardo to come on if we need some more control. Liverpool will slice through our midfield otherwise and our back three will be stretched allowing them to get numbers in the box. Otamendi and Laporte with Stones and Ferny and two full backs allows greater control and Silva can pick little pockets to feed counter attacks.
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Dropping Sane would be madness in my opinion.
You mean inSane?
BlueMoonz1977
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Last nights showing in terms of the sloppy passing has got me concerned because if we make those same mistakes at the weekend Liverpool will punish us.
The only way we will win is if we can cut out these mistakes, and actually be more forward and direct with our play. This means not knocking it around in midfield for lengthy spells but looking for a swift one-touch move, which means that the front line are going to have to be at their best, running the channels and getting in behind the defenders at the earliest opportunity. Ederson will have to play his part and look for those long ranged passes to aguero that we have witnessed - so that this keeps the scouse back line guessing. We need Sane to take his LB on and force fouls etc to put them on the back foot and the same from the other flank.
If we play our ususal style of holding the ball in midfield, then this will play into liverpools hands because they will pounce of fernan especially, and force the errors or a wayward pass.
This all comes down to game management and altering tact for me, and this is hopefully what we will witness on Sunday afternoon in order to stand a chance of winning finally at their ground.
Lets go and win it
The only way we will win is if we can cut out these mistakes, and actually be more forward and direct with our play. This means not knocking it around in midfield for lengthy spells but looking for a swift one-touch move, which means that the front line are going to have to be at their best, running the channels and getting in behind the defenders at the earliest opportunity. Ederson will have to play his part and look for those long ranged passes to aguero that we have witnessed - so that this keeps the scouse back line guessing. We need Sane to take his LB on and force fouls etc to put them on the back foot and the same from the other flank.
If we play our ususal style of holding the ball in midfield, then this will play into liverpools hands because they will pounce of fernan especially, and force the errors or a wayward pass.
This all comes down to game management and altering tact for me, and this is hopefully what we will witness on Sunday afternoon in order to stand a chance of winning finally at their ground.
Lets go and win it
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Head to head stats above - Not very uplifting stats as everyone already knows. Since 2014 we have 8 losses in 12 games against the Dippers.
In those 8 losses we have conceded the 1st goal in the:
6th minute - Sterling
11th minute - Henderson
7th minute - Mangala
34th minute - Lallana
8th minute - Wijnaldum
9th minute - Oxlade-Chamberlain
12th minute - Salah
56th minute - Salah
Hence in 7 of these 8 losses, they score the first goal within more or less the first 30 minutes. Half of the 8 goals are within the first 10 minutes and 6 out of 8 within the first 12 minutes! I was of course aware of that we concede early against this lot, but even I got surprised when I checked yesterday and it's really, really bad.
Furthermore, we also tend to concede many goals in chunks against this lot. This is not surprising, because when Klopp's teams get first blood they tend to just keep going, and it's not only against us this happens.
As I could check this within 15 minutes, I suppose it couldn't be too difficult for City's analytics team to see this as well. Is it really that difficult to counter-measure? Don't play around in tight spaces too much, hit the occasional long ball when needed, let them press a little bit and ride out the first 30 minutes, then the chances should increase dramatically.
Head to head stats above - Not very uplifting stats as everyone already knows. Since 2014 we have 8 losses in 12 games against the Dippers.
In those 8 losses we have conceded the 1st goal in the:
6th minute - Sterling
11th minute - Henderson
7th minute - Mangala
34th minute - Lallana
8th minute - Wijnaldum
9th minute - Oxlade-Chamberlain
12th minute - Salah
56th minute - Salah
Hence in 7 of these 8 losses, they score the first goal within more or less the first 30 minutes. Half of the 8 goals are within the first 10 minutes and 6 out of 8 within the first 12 minutes! I was of course aware of that we concede early against this lot, but even I got surprised when I checked yesterday and it's really, really bad.
Furthermore, we also tend to concede many goals in chunks against this lot. This is not surprising, because when Klopp's teams get first blood they tend to just keep going, and it's not only against us this happens.
As I could check this within 15 minutes, I suppose it couldn't be too difficult for City's analytics team to see this as well. Is it really that difficult to counter-measure? Don't play around in tight spaces too much, hit the occasional long ball when needed, let them press a little bit and ride out the first 30 minutes, then the chances should increase dramatically.
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Also, I checked the period before 2014 when we at least managed to get draws from Anfield. What was obvious was that we then played with a very strong defensive square consisting of CBs and DMs. Kompany and Lescott as CBs and Barry and NDJ/Milner in front. Liverpool were not as good then as they are today, but by no means a bad team.
Someone thought it was a stupid idea when I suggested to start Stones as a second pivot next to Dinho in front of the CBs, but I stick to that solution. Probably Kompany, Laporte, Fernandinho and Stones is the best way to mimic that square we had then. Mind you, we conceded even then, and I remember a Lescott mistake from that time, but you get my idea.
Someone thought it was a stupid idea when I suggested to start Stones as a second pivot next to Dinho in front of the CBs, but I stick to that solution. Probably Kompany, Laporte, Fernandinho and Stones is the best way to mimic that square we had then. Mind you, we conceded even then, and I remember a Lescott mistake from that time, but you get my idea.
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------------------Ederson--------------------
Walker - Kompany - Laporte - Zinchenko
-----------Stones---Fernandinho--------
-----Sterling -----Silva----Silva--------
----------------Aguero------------
Walker - Kompany - Laporte - Zinchenko
-----------Stones---Fernandinho--------
-----Sterling -----Silva----Silva--------
----------------Aguero------------
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Agree,although I suspect Zinchenko didn't play tonight to ensure he was fit and well for SundayZinchenko all day over Laporte,as should have been the case tonight.
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Hope so.Agree,although I suspect Zinchenko didn't play tonight to ensure he was fit and well for Sunday
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