Liverpool away - Hillsborough tribute

[Santiago Street]

Re: Liverpool away

This debate is conducted with the same half wit attitude by some on here as the immigration debate is in the wider media.

Think for yourselves ffs.

Nowhere did I blame the 96.

I said that the culpability of the authorities doesn't necessarily mean that every single fans there on the day (to make this clear for the slower blue mooners - not those who died - ) behaved in an impeccable and blameless fashion

This doesn't mean I disrespect the dead, it means I take a common sense approach to the realities of fans' behaviour at matches in that era.

Shame on you morons for trying to twist my words

You mentioned earlier in the thread about continued foistering of grief.
I think you need to try and differentiate between continued grief, and that of getting to the bottom of the truth.

It is only relatively recently that new evidence has came to light etc.....to find out the truth.
But that is totally irrelevant to what is being honoured.

The point is, in the coming weeks, an anniversary of 96 totally innocent people will be respected, and will be respected by all football fans, because all those 96 people did that day, was to support their football team.....just like we all do.

Goes without saying that it will be respected.

When does it all end though ?

Why don't all games on or near May 11 commemorate Bradford ?

To the half wits, does "troll" mean somebody whose opinion is formed with some degree of analysis rather than just shouting the same thing everyone else says like you guys

Internet dwelling fools

 

[burning blue soul]

Re: Liverpool away

tbh i've pretty much had enough of respecting this occasion. it was such a tragedy, and the whole of football changed as a result.

please, please dont keep dragging it up every year. i have people i know who died in unfortunate circumstance, shall i report it every one, five or ten years? let it go for feck sake!!!!

 

[citymad]

Re: Liverpool away

tbh i've pretty much had enough of respecting this occasion. it was such a tragedy, and the whole of football changed as a result.

please, please dont keep dragging it up every year. i have people i know who died in unfortunate circumstance, shall i report it every one, five or ten years? let it go for feck sake!!!!

Then you just stand on the concourse supping your beer raising your eyebrows while rest of us see it for what it is... a minute out of our lives to show some respect and sympathy for everyone involved in that terrible day. It's not been thrust on everyone like your suggesting its for the football world and forgive me for being naive I would expect every fan who loves this game to show at least a little respect for this occasion.

 

[didsburyblu]

Re: Liverpool away

Kick off is now 13.37pm.

All games that weekend will start 7 mins later as a mark of respect as it is 25 years since the Hillsborough disaster.

Its early so maybe my brain isnt in gear but whats the significance of all the games kicking off 7 minutes late??

 

[Paulpowersleftfoot]

Re: Liverpool away

Kick off is now 13.37pm.

All games that weekend will start 7 mins later as a mark of respect as it is 25 years since the Hillsborough disaster.

Its early so maybe my brain isnt in gear but whats the significance of all the games kicking off 7 minutes late??

Think the game played for 7 minutes?
Hope they stop doing minutes silence,unless grounds have a tannoy system to alert everyone on the concourse below what's happening outside.
Minutes applause is a far better idea

 

[Scotty76]

Re: Liverpool away

Kick off is now 13.37pm.

All games that weekend will start 7 mins later as a mark of respect as it is 25 years since the Hillsborough disaster.

Its early so maybe my brain isnt in gear but whats the significance of all the games kicking off 7 minutes late??

The game was played for 6mins while this tragedy was unfolding. So I think they're not using the first 6mins from original ko times.

 

[Scotty76]

Re: Liverpool away

tbh i've pretty much had enough of respecting this occasion. it was such a tragedy, and the whole of football changed as a result.

please, please dont keep dragging it up every year. i have people i know who died in unfortunate circumstance, shall i report it every one, five or ten years? let it go for feck sake!!!!

They keep 'dragging it up every year' because they wanted truth and justice for the ones they lost. Anyone would want that, not just in a situation like Hillsborough. In their eyes, and many other peoples, letting it go 'for feck sake', would be letting those 96 down!!!
As I've said, it's the 25th anniversary, a quarter of a century, and they have only just got access to the truth. God knows what that must be like!
Having stood on terraces as a young lad, sometimes it was almost terrifying, but i always got home. They didn't.
I for one feel lucky (not sure if that's the right word for it) that i can actually be at anfield to pay my respects.
I don't understand people against this, but that's up to them. But please try to understand that there is no time limit on grief, especially in these circumstances!

 

[There is a Light]

Re: Liverpool away

Liverpool supporters and the victims families bravely kept the fight going for so many years (against the might of a government no less) that these minutes silences will probably go on forever.

The deserve nothing but respect and I'm sure they will get this from our travelling support.

If people don't like that, maybe they should just stay out of the way for a minute before the match, it shouldn't be difficult.

 

[mayo31]

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The difference between Bradford and hillsborough is that with Bradford the reason behind the tradegy was found pretty quickly.

There was no cover up or blame game. No newspapers saying that fans robbed the dead. No hiding that fans were pronounced dead before they actually were.

I was at Blackburn that day with City and for those who went to games those days you will remember how fans were herded into grounds, all treated like hooligans, the grounds were not the best after years of neglect. It could have been any set of fans at a really big game.

It also shows that people will just not give up and go away believing what the authorities tell us when they lie.

The 80's was a decade that the authorities treated the people of Britain with contempt especially the working class. That is my view.

 

[King Geedorah]

Re: Liverpool away

The difference between Bradford and hillsborough is that with Bradford the reason behind the tradegy was found pretty quickly.

There was no cover up or blame game. No newspapers saying that fans robbed the dead. No hiding that fans were pronounced dead before they actually were.

I was at Blackburn that day with City and for those who went to games those days you will remember how fans were herded into grounds, all treated like hooligans, the grounds were not the best after years of neglect. It could have been any set of fans at a really big game.

It also shows that people will just not give up and go away believing what the authorities tell us when they lie.

The 80's was a decade that the authorities treated the people of Britain with contempt especially the working class. That is my view.

Fantastic post mate.

Hillsborough goes so far beyond Liverpool football club, as most Liverpool fans would attest to I'm sure- it's about football fans collectively remembering how bad it was and ensuring it never goes that way again. That may sound callous, because of course it's also about remembering the 96 lives, yet it has to have a wider meaning to be respected nationwide imo.

The wider political point I agree with but wouldn't like to expand on in this section of the forum.