Liverpool bus damaged on journey back from Etihad Stadium today

[mexico1970]

I think a few might answer: How about some accountability for a fanbase that is brown nosed and pandered to by the UK press and sports broadcasters? How about the damage that the consequences of their actions caused to english football in the 80s is acknowledged instead, of being that club and their fanbase being held up as something they are not all the time? Like they've only ever been a good example for English football. Most of this was before I was following football, but if they really were saying it was Chelsea fans and acting like they were hard done by. While other english clubs and fans were tarnished and punished along with them, then it's understandable where their reputation comes from.

Maybe the same or equal coverage of the Bradford fire and the Heysel killings as Hillsborough gets would start the ball rolling.

 

[SatOnTheWall]

I think a few might answer: How about some accountability for a fanbase that is brown nosed and pandered to by the UK press and sports broadcasters? How about the damage that the consequences of their actions caused to english football in the 80s is acknowledged(should they be lauded and pandered to as a fanbase to the extent they are?), instead of being that club and their fanbase being held up as something they are not all the time? Like they've only ever been a good example for English football.

Most of this was before I was following football, but if they really were saying it was Chelsea fans and acting like they were hard done by. While other english clubs and fans(the whole league were set back by this) were tarnished and punished along with them, then it's understandable where their reputation comes from.

They were blaming Chelsea fans. Not surprisingly Chelsea fans of a certain age are still a bit miffed.

 

[Benjani56]

I think a few might answer: How about some accountability for a fanbase that is brown nosed and pandered to by the UK press and sports broadcasters? How about the damage that the consequences of their actions caused to english football in the 80s is acknowledged(should they be lauded and pandered to as a fanbase to the extent they are?), instead of that club and their fanbase being held up as something they are not all the time? Like they've only ever been a good example for English football.

Most of this was before I was following football, but if they really were saying it was Chelsea fans and acting like they were hard done by. While other english clubs and fans(the whole league were set back by this) were tarnished and punished along with them, then it's understandable where their reputation comes from.

It has all gone through the legal system and a number of Liverpool fans were convicted. I don't understand what else you would want to see happen? I would agree with you if no one had been charged but that isn't the case. What you've mentioned there seems to be more about a media bias towards atmosphere at anfield etc which is completely unrelated to this

 

[blue b4 the moon]

This season, Victimpool are happy to settle for apologies after a game as they are getting nothing on the pitch!

If apologies were points....

 

[Benjani56]

Maybe the same or equal coverage of the Bradford fire and the Heysel killings as Hillsborough gets would start the ball rolling.

If I have to explain to you why they get different levels of coverage then there is no point debating this

 

[mexico1970]

If I have to explain to you why they get different levels of coverage then there is no point debating this

That's what people are complaining about, and of course the protection the scouse scum get over this and what appears to be anything else.

You're analysing something that doesn't need analysing. In fact you're almost analising it.

 

[Benjani56]

That's what people are complaining about, and of course the protection the scouse scum get over this and what appears to be anything else.

You're analysing something that doesn't need analysing. In fact you're almost analising it.

Why do you think Hillsborough gets more coverage than Heysel? Genuinely want to get your honest answer

 

[Metalartin]

I should also say I didn't write that post because I'm in favour of the never your fault chant, because some people are referring to Hillsborough when they chant it. Wasn't there a tweet of an idiot counting/miming the number of casualties as he sang it? We can't ignore shit like that.

The other reason I don't like it, is because it gives them an easy out/free pass for their own fanbase's behaviour. Was it this season or last, that they used it as an excuse for that young West Ham fan who got jumped by a group of Liverpool supporters? They just claim someone was chanting it and nobody wants to go near it or question it.

Same with recent ticket issue for the CL final, there was no way anyone was going to call out those Liverpool fans who went to that game knowing their ticket was a fake... Some of those individuals knowingly deprived their own fans of a seat they'd legitimately reserved and paid full whack for.

I don't really think a new Heysel chant is the way to go about it either though. I'm not sure what word I'm looking for that articulates it best to be honest(similar to glorification but more relevant to this). It just doesn't seem right if your motivation is just to rile up or get one over on a rival, more than actually caring about the issue. Using a tragedy as a means to an end.

Maybe a banner that can't be misconstrued, that spells out why their fans are seen as such whiny hypocrites. And a strong hint for the media to stop pandering and give balanced coverage across the board for once. It goes beyond stadium tragedies really doesn't it? It's every time a big game is on with any trouble, they're way more interested in what the opposition has done wrong.

 

[mexico1970]

Why do you think Hillsborough gets more coverage than Heysel? Genuinely want to get your honest answer

The real question would be why does Hillsborough get more coverage than lets say the Bradford fire? Do we have wall to wall coverage of the Zebrugge disaster or the Aberfan horror?? No we don't now why is that?

Together with the Munich air crash both the rags and scousers have monetised their tragedies in an almost religious sense, they are in fact untouchable and when they claim that they have been offended then they must have been offended.

The scousers have welded Hillsborough onto the Heysel incident to prevent other fans from reminding the feral scum where their moral compass lies.

 

[Metalartin]

It has all gone through the legal system and a number of Liverpool fans were convicted. I don't understand what else you would want to see happen? I would agree with you if no one had been charged but that isn't the case. What you've mentioned there seems to be more about a media bias towards atmosphere at anfield etc which is completely unrelated to this

It's the attitude of the fanbase that is enabled by the pandering of the press, they are hand in hand. I think you're being a bit disingenuous about this. That whole fanbase is treated differently than pretty much any other club's IMO. I've already said I'm not in favour of chants about it but I don't think we should forget all about it just because some people were charged either.