Liverpool FA Cup s/f (N) | Post Match Thread

It really doesn’t make sense to take the FA Cup seriously if we are going to pull the same trick season after season. It isn’t fair on the fans - it would be better to get knocked out in the 3rd round, so we shouldn’t be putting pretty much full strength teams out against weak opposition in the early rounds then emasculating the team in the semi finals. There is a reason why we’ve lost so many semi finals in the FA Cup and it has nothing to do with luck or having an ‘off day’. What today has done however has confirmed a few things we already knew - our forwards don’t really deserve that description and the infill players like Steffen and Zinchenko will never be regulars.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Love pep and he is a great manager at league level as his record proves.
He isn’t however an elite manager in the manner of Ferguson of Klopp.
Too many instances of hugely important one off cup games being fucked up either by poor team selection, head scratching tactics, baffling use/non-use of substitutions or a combination of all three.

The true elite managers can get their teams over the line in difficult circumstances and in one off must win games. Often by sheer force of will and personality.

Peps record in these sort of games is pretty woeful.
I almost hope we get knocked out by Real as if we make the final we will be schooled by Klopp again and that doesn’t bear thinking about.

Great manager, super guy, but a long way from elite and we will never ever win the CL with him at the club.
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With respect thats absolute bollocks.
 
We were sat in 109 and got spat on by Scouse pricks who had infiltrated the block above us. Happened after all their goals.

When we scored they started throwing stuff, one little girl sustained a badly injured arm and had to leave at 3-1.

They’re shameless and the stewards did fuck all despite a lot of Blues remonstrating.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Love pep and he is a great manager at league level as his record proves.
He isn’t however an elite manager in the manner of Ferguson of Klopp.
Too many instances of hugely important one off cup games being fucked up either by poor team selection, head scratching tactics, baffling use/non-use of substitutions or a combination of all three.

The true elite managers can get their teams over the line in difficult circumstances and in one off must win games. Often by sheer force of will and personality.

Peps record in these sort of games is pretty woeful.
I almost hope we get knocked out by Real as if we make the final we will be schooled by Klopp again and that doesn’t bear thinking about.

Great manager, super guy, but a long way from elite and we will never ever win the CL with him at the club.
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Sort yourself out, we weren't even getting near champions league finals before Pep
 
manchesterJACK said:
Last FA cup semi final I will be attending whilst pep is manager…. Why not play the kids in the 3rd round if you clearly have no intention of trying to win the comp….4th FA Cup semi final we’ve now lost.
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I do have sympathy for those who have been to Wembley over recent years as its guesswork as to who Pep is gonna play. I haven’t been to Wembley since 2011 in the FA Cup final, but I knew that in both trips (semi and final) that the only way Toure, Kompany or Silva weren’t playing was if they were injured and that’s it.
 
Chi-town blues said:
If we have fit first team , Im not concerned at all. They are ordinary and today’s game showed their flaws and weaknesses.
If we do meet them in cl , boys will be well up for it .
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This was exactly what we used to say about Chelsea last year too. Yes we can absolutely beat them in a final but we played them twice full strength and didn’t win.
 
Did better than I thought we would having seen the team sheet. Concentrating on the Prem and chumps leagues. At the end of the season if we win the league and beat the scousers in Paris who'll give a shit about today's match. Come one you blues. This could still be our greatest ever season!
 
zandvoort blue said:
Steffen's problem is that Ederson is so unique. He doesn't have the same skill set, but unfortunately the team play the same tactics and expect the same keeper performance. He isn't capable of pinging it to the full backs feet and he doesn't have the option of an accurate long ball. No Ederson means a different approach should have been used.
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I don't agree with that at all but it's all about opinions, My perspective of it is, We play the same way all the time and that will never ever change and it shouldn't change no matter who plays because this is Pep philosophy and drills this into the players since day one "being brave on the ball". It certainly wouldn't go down well if all of a sudden Steffen starts and decides "Lads Steffen isn't good enough on the ball so we are going route one today".
Steffen problem isn't that Ederson is unique it's actually just plain and simple that Steffen isn't good enough to do the job asked of him, I think we all knew before the game that Steffen shouldn't of been picked for today because he's not capable of producing of what's asked from him. Ederson should have started today, Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Love pep and he is a great manager at league level as his record proves.
He isn’t however an elite manager in the manner of Ferguson of Klopp.
Too many instances of hugely important one off cup games being fucked up either by poor team selection, head scratching tactics, baffling use/non-use of substitutions or a combination of all three.

The true elite managers can get their teams over the line in difficult circumstances and in one off must win games. Often by sheer force of will and personality.

Peps record in these sort of games is pretty woeful.
I almost hope we get knocked out by Real as if we make the final we will be schooled by Klopp again and that doesn’t bear thinking about.

Great manager, super guy, but a long way from elite and we will never ever win the CL with him at the club.
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he has the worst ego in the game but he is definitely an elite manager .
 
eversince 76 said:
Just got back from the match. That was a poor first half by 11 who should have done better. As shown in the 2nd half. You can either blame Pep or the players. But why we were playing like we had our pants full of shite beats me.
Pity we didn’t nick extra time. We could have done that. Easily tbh.

Always proud, but the 1st 45 minutes, huge defensive mistakes and again not finishing our chances simply cost us. Liverpool were better but not by much. And we made them look better. Again.

Onwards to try and win the league and CL. That’ll do me tbh.
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Cant blame zaz
KnaresboroughBlue said:
We do try and win it until it becomes a lesser priority. If we were walking away with the league or didn't have a CL semi-final coming up, I'm sure we would have put out a stronger team. It's just unfortunate that the SF of the FA cup comes around at a time when we have tired players and bigger priorities.
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Completely understand that but I’ve spent 200/300 quid today to take my kids to the game today and again we’ve played a weak team in a semi final once again and thrown a cup he has no intention of trying to win! Be lucky to get 25k there next season if we get there because everyone knows what hes gonna do!
 
Eric Hitchmough said:
We were sat in 109 and got spat on by Scouse pricks who had infiltrated the block above us. Happened after all their goals.

When we scored they started throwing stuff, one little girl sustained a badly injured arm and had to leave at 3-1.

They’re shameless and the stewards did fuck all despite a lot of Blues remonstrating.
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surely not, they're saints aren't they, i blame chelsea fans for throwing those flares on the pitch as well
 
Hung said:
It really doesn’t make sense to take the FA Cup seriously if we are going to pull the same trick season after season. It isn’t fair on the fans - it would be better to get knocked out in the 3rd round, so we shouldn’t be putting pretty much full strength teams out against weak opposition in the early rounds then emasculating the team in the semi finals. There is a reason why we’ve lost so many semi finals in the FA Cup and it has nothing to do with luck or having an ‘off day’. What today has done however has confirmed a few things we already knew - our forwards don’t really deserve that description and the infill players like Steffen and Zinchenko will never be regulars.
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Zinc has his mind on other things and Steffen should go back to being a Philadelphia Eagles cheerleader
 
lazerblue said:
are you saying he should have started up front, i was under the impression he was a keeper
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He’s a keeper who is clearly unsuitable to play in our system - he’s nowhere near comfortable enough on the ball. He’s obviously under instructions to pass no matter how intense the press is so he can’t really be blamed for following instructions
 
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