Liverpool (H) Post Match Thread

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aguero93:20 said:
Agree with all the rest but the way to deal with this (and we did it at amateur level) is simply to kick the ball against them and get them booked for deliberately encroaching. It's mandatory so if the ref orders a retake without booking them it's easy to point out.
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Agreed, but the issue is that players at the top level are rarely carded for doing it, even when the ball is kicked against the player standing in front of it. It shouldn’t be that way, as it should be mandatory as you said, but it is. They nearly always just get a stern talking to.

Also, even if they are carded, it will still be used to stop quick free kicks that could be dangerous (just as professional fouls like Lovrens on Thursday are employed, knowing full well they are going to get a yellow card, rather than a red, usually), so will continue to be a frequent tactic. The rule changes I propose would be in addition to more strict enforcement of carding encroachment, and would make it more difficult to obstruct the free kicks in general.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Actually i’ve finally worked it out.

They didn’t win because they hadn’t been through their usual pre-match routine of smashing a coach up in public.

There, all sorted now.
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We’re ruining football, as they’ve always said.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Agreed, but the issue is that players at the top level are rarely carded for doing it, even when the ball is kicked against the player standing in front of it. It shouldn’t be that way, as it should be mandatory as you said, but it is. They nearly always just get a stern talking to.
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So keep going at the ref, remind him constantly, point out that it's a tactic etc (you can probably tell I was given the armband solely to keep me on the pitch for 90 minutes), every player booked is a player suffering from a split second of hesitation before every duel, every tackle etc. It's one I think should be a yellow card tbh.

Shirt pulls etc? Fine, but if shirt pulls are a mandatory red then we'll see more tackles like the one on Sané by the Cardiff player last season.
 
aguero93:20 said:
So keep going at the ref, remind him constantly, point out that it's a tactic etc (you can probably tell I was given the armband solely to keep me on the pitch for 90 minutes), every player booked is a player suffering from a split second of hesitation before every duel, every tackle etc. It's one I think should be a yellow card tbh.

Shirt pulls etc? Fine, but if shirt pulls are a mandatory red then we'll see more tackles like the one on Sané by the Cardiff player last season.
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Perhaps I have just had to deal with far more stubborn or belligerent refs over my time, but I have had very little luck with pointing out inconsistencies in their application of the laws of the game. In fact, I found that it was most often counter productive. I have a few anecdotal examples (including an unfair sending off in a game in ‘Uddersfield toward the end of my competitive playing days), but I’ll save everyone another monotonous diatribe.

But you might be right — maybe at the top level that strategy could be effective as the referees have to be less reactionary and vindictive given there is a much higher level of scrutiny and consequence.
 
Chris in London said:
Jurgen Klopp, September 2017:



Jurgen Klopp, January 2019



So: dangerous tackle leading to serious injury = no red card; non-dangerous tackle not leading to serious injuries = red card.

Was he always deluded or is it just since he joined them?
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He's just gone all in since he became the Cult leader at Klanfield.
All managers do once they get there look at that nutter Bodgers with his Nazi style armband, it could be the only way to get those lunatic fans on board.
 
Having an argument with a dipper earlier shut the cvnt up when I pointed out that if all teams played the dippers as we have, they'd be relegated on 19 points.
1 out of six.
 
Just watched the whole 90 minutes back again...

The quality on show wasn’t as good as I’d thought it was. Some very poor passing from both teams but especially Liverpool.

First half:
Salah was involved in almost nothing. Leroy very dangerous but neither team created anything other than the two main goal mouth chances, theirs didn’t go in but ours did!

Second half:
We created much more, our passing was better, but we switched off as a team for their goal. Then Robertson switched off and their whole team panicked for our winning goal. They continued to pass very poorly and Salah was again involved in almost nothing while we should have sewn the game up with a third a few times. Fernandinho and Bernardo were the difference in the game overall.


I’ve heard and read a few times in various places about that game being like the reverse fixture last season when they took our unbeaten run off us. But we finished 25 points above them so for me it wasn’t that at all. It was more of it being the fixture at Old Trafford for us last season where we won and put an 11 point gap between us and United that could never be bridged again... the difference being it would have been Liverpool creating a 10 point gap to us which we may not have bridged... but they failed to do it!

Meaning, title race... ON!
 
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