Liverpool (H) - Post-Match Thread

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

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KDB looked tired, mentally too, early November only it is a bit of a worry. Now he will play two games for Belgium too possibly, last thing we need him picking up an injury.......

He'll either play a couple of blinders, one blinder and get carried off in the second, or get clattered in the first! It's what happens!

 

[Fordyboy46]

Blame the world of football in general, greed and money.

International games should be scraped during this pandemic, and maybe even european competitions.

Far too many games, the players are shattered and not surprisingly bored. Playing in empty stadiums must be dire.

Exactly, I don't think half the players are motivated at the minute, managers as well.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

We seem to have around 3-4 players who are full of energy, speed, and enthusiasm when coming on a substitute, yet look completely drained and lifeless when starting the following week.

Bernardo looked confident and assured yesterday, resulting in Robertson being forced to play deeper. We just need him to do it every week, because he should be the solution to a lot of our problems.

 

[manimanc]

Personnel wise we haven't changed much but the performances of the personnel certainly has. When Sane was here, we had Sterling firing on all cylinders and Bernardo was arguably our best player. There was little argument that Sane would be in rotation with players who were at the top of their game. The same cannot be said now, Sane walks into this current side. Torres looks a great prospect but he has a hell of a long way to go to get anywhere near Sane levels. Sane left, Jesus up top and Sterling on the right and all of a sudden we would be a major threat again.

Yeah you make a very good point there. Fair enough.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Just wondering re sky they do a red button service for the match without crowd noise

would it be possible to do a green button service for match without Carragher
He is so so biased and spoils my enjoyment. He doesn’t shut up when Liverpool are on top and then is completely silent when City are

I wonder If I started a nationwide petition how many would sign up

 

[Callum Ramsey]

Of course I grasp that our style is different but its clear as day that our wide forwards aren't as good as theirs. Our style relies heavily on our wide men getting the ball and creating and scoring goals. Clearly a more creative midfield would assist with this process but our wide men see enough of the ball even now, that if they were really top level e.g. Mane and Salah they would get the job done.

I criticise our midfield as much as anyone on here. I am dumfounded how we have gone from possibly they best midfield 3 in the world just a few years ago to Rodri and Gundogan but I don't think its fair to pile the blame on them for the clear Sterling and Mahrez limitations.

See that's just recency bias. Sterling has been poor/inconsistent for a good few months and mahrez even longer. I'm personally of the opinion that sterling's both mentally and physically worn out from the intensity of the past 3 seasons being the most used player in the squad including internationals and needs a few games off. But this idea that he or the wide forwards isn't as good as theirs is just not true. I could've sworn it was sterling and bernardo who helped fire the team to the league and a domestic treble in a season where they were directly competing against this supposedly much better wide players or did that not happen. This was a season without de-bruyne for the most part so you can't even use the excuse they were carried by him like many of sterling's detractors tend to.

It's funny I watched a game where mane was constantly falling to the floor every chance he got and consistently made the wrong decision whenever he got to the final third just like sterling but because he works hard tracking back people seem to forget that. He's a top player but he's increasing becoming one of the most overrated players in the league that his poor performances always seem to get overlooked. Sterling is every bit as good as him and has shown so countless seasons. He outperforms him in almost every metric you can think of the past 3 seasons including goals, assist, chances created and him currently being out of sorts doesn't erase that fact.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Sterling looked scared to me, while KDb was way off, he did have one good pass to Jesus which needed fair bit of tricky first touch from Jesus to create the chance but KDB lost so many easy balls, he was just off.
KDB looked tired, mentally too, early November only it is a bit of a worry. Now he will play two games for Belgium too possibly, last thing we need him picking up an injury.

But I dont know why KDB had to play 85 minutes vs Marseille, or Walker 82 minutes.

worst is there will be two cannon fodder games in CL, the 5th and 6th game in group, and you know Pep will complain about how hard the fixture list, how hard players have it, yet KDB and Walker will play again close to 90 minutes in both games.

Liverpool were much better in first 25 minutes, we created absolute nothing in that period, but after Jesus goal Klopp got scared, changed their formation which was not really good for them, Firmino had to be subbed off too soon, and they were there for taking as they knew we can unlock their defence.

Missing the pen was such a low, they had one they punished us with it, we did not do the same, why?

We lost out on both Monaco CL tie and Tottenham CL tie on less away goals scored and we missed pen in both ties (Kun).
Mahrez missed one at Anfield in last minute at 0-0. now KDB missing this.
And we missed many others too in last couple of years.

I wonder whats our pen conversion rate under Pep compared to rivals.

Have to agree re the penalties.

Ok a goalkeeper can pull off a great save but for a top player to actually miss the target is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Stoned Rose]

See that's just recency bias. Sterling has been poor/inconsistent for a good few months and mahrez even longer. I'm personally of the opinion that sterling's both mentally and physically worn out from the intensity of the past 3 seasons being the most used player in the squad including internationals and needs a few games off. But this idea that he or the wide forwards isn't as good as theirs is just not true. I could've sworn it was sterling and bernardo who helped fire the team to the league and a domestic treble in a season where they were directly competing against this supposedly much better wide players or did that not happen. This was a season without de-bruyne for the most part so you can't even use the excuse they were carried by him like many of sterling's detractors tend to.

It's funny I watched a game where mane was constantly falling to the floor every chance he got and consistently made the wrong decision whenever he got to the final third just like sterling but because he works hard tracking back people seem to forget that. He's a top player but he's increasing becoming one of the most overrated players in the league that his poor performances always seem to get overlooked. Sterling is every bit as good as him and has shown so countless seasons. He outperforms him in almost every metric you can think of the past 3 seasons including goals, assist, chances created and him currently being out of sorts doesn't erase that fact.

Mane was absolutely wank yesterday.

Imo we dealt with their front 4 really well.

 

[dadnlad]

well pep's fault we missed a penalty wow
but watching scouse sports news
Stephen Warnock needs to be snapped up as next manager before another big team gets him

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Mane was absolutely wank yesterday.

Imo we dealt with their front 4 really well.

I wouldn't say Mane was wank but I thought City defended superbly yesterday and, apart from the first 20 minutes, we snuffed them out. It's a pleasure to see us with such a solid back four. Pep has been more pragamtic this season. He is trying to manage his players carefully. I sure this will be the right long-term approach during this crazy period.