Liverpool (H) - Post-Match Thread

[lasereyes]

Gomez out for the season , welcome to our world Dippers , your title has just disappeared over the hill.

Thats a plus for them

 

[oasisband909]

Gomez out for the season , welcome to our world Dippers , your title has just disappeared over the hill.

the footballing gods retaliated with Ake for your mean spirited outburst

 

[asahartford1]

And some won't know that we still had subs we could use.

There are an increasing number of "fans" with a far greater knowledge than Pep. He picks the wrong teams, signs the wrong players, doesn't make the right subs, gets the players injured, can't attack, nor defend.
When I read the pre or post match threads, I get the impression there is a growing movement of disquiet , and i think to myself , "what is wrong with these people" ?

 

[Newman Noggs]

There are an increasing number of "fans" with a far greater knowledge than Pep. He picks the wrong teams, signs the wrong players, doesn't make the right subs, gets the players injured, can't attack, nor defend.
When I read the pre or post match threads, I get the impression there is a growing movement of disquiet , and i think to myself , "what is wrong with these people" ?

It's all walks of life though. Pandemics, the economy, there's no-one that doesn't know better how it should be done.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Completely agree!

SO tired of hearing “there was contact!” IT’S A CONTACT SPORT!!
The question is, “Was it a foul?”

Against Liverpool, Sterling was fouled in exactly the same way as Mané, except Sterling TRIED to stay on his feet! Mané went down like a sack of spuds and was REWARDED FOR DIVING...just like Salah in their previous game!

We have VAR, but the “clear and obvious” language is being used to NOT overturn these decisions! The language should be, “Was it an ACTUAL foul, or was the referee conned by the speed of the action and the actions of the player?”

And, the whole “there was contact” BULLSHIT needs to be shamed out of existence! Hell, if THAT was the threshold for a foul anywhere, there would be no football...and every dead ball or corner or throw in hoisted into the box would be a penalty!!

There is so much at stake in games now, and most penalties are goals, which are ridiculously valuable and completely change games. Accordingly, there needs to be a REDEFINITION of what a foul is snd is not, with referees gaining an understanding of what should and should not be a foul, a yellow card, and a red card!

The lack of consistency from ref to ref, league to league, country to country, and competition to competition is ridiculous, especially considering they’re all supposed to be applying the exact same Laws of the Game!

The quality of refereeing, and the diving that creates penalties and free kicks in dangerous areas, is killing the game.

Without fans in the stadium, it has been noteworthy to see how players feign injury less and roll around less, ESPECIALLY when the ref doesn’t give the foul and plays on.

Without doubt, the biggest cancer on the game is the CHEATING AND PLAY ACTING! My friends in the U.S. just roll their eyes and laugh when they see it...esp when the super slo-mo replay shows he either wasn’t touched or was barely touched. It has become the norm to see a player drop to the ground holding his face as if hit by a pick ace handle for even the slightest contact to the head or face. This can only be to try to get a player sent off. It is pathetic and cheating!

If the PFA had any interest in addressing the cheating against a fellow professional, they would step in and say, or do, something about it, too!

Absolutely, CB. How many refs consider a player has been fouled when he has stayed on his feet. Yer can grab hold of an attacker's shirt on the halfway line and expect a booking or a sending off depending on the spread of players, but do it in the penalty area at a corner and it's the philosophy of the National Lottery at play - some yer get, some yer don't. I suspect it's long been part of the training ground drills for some players to 'perfect. the 'touch 'n tumble approach. The classic that comes to mind is the Rags v QPR - one of the Rangers defenders is sent off after about 11 mins, I think, because Ash the Crash took a tumble. The slo-mo showed a good foot of daylight between defender and attacker. Pen and red card leg up for MANURe. The Dippers have taken over that mantle and, as yer say, a penalty is the golden goose that lays three points.

And how many times am I 'commentating' at corners - 'That's a pen, that's a pen, so's that, and there's another!" And the defenders scramble the ball away. PiGMOL start near every season with a clear instruction re some aspect of the LotG. Remember holding at corners? First City game we get a pen and then concede one when Raheem 'holds' the 7ft6in Shawcross! And the two-pen-a-game matches soon disappeared when it would have been clear that within a couple of matchdays most refs were ignoring it. I also remember the 'retreating' ten yards at a free kick under pain of a yellow card. Some ref, some seasons way back, forget who, doled out seven in one free kick when a defending wall wouldn't retreat the ten yards. He was 'spoken' to during the week!!

 

[LFC-Fans]

What’s more worrying is that he went down when nobody was near him. He wasn’t tackled or anything and I think it was to do with his knee which he has had problems with in the past.
Next few games will be interesting to say the least. No Trent, VVD or Gomez

 

[manimanc]

What’s more worrying is that he went down when nobody was near him. He wasn’t tackled or anything and I think it was to do with his knee which he has had problems with in the past.
Next few games will be interesting to say the least. No Trent, VVD or Gomez

I'm sure VAR will take pity on the two diving cunts you have up front.

I wouldn't worry too much.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Milner will play right back, Matip and Fabinho will be their starting option.

Would be tested against a pace merchant like Vardy or Auba.

Matip is also very injury prone.

 

[hcblue95]

I haven't seen Gomez confirmed out for the season anywhere, is it just rumours?

 

[mexico1970]

What’s more worrying is that he went down when nobody was near him. He wasn’t tackled or anything and I think it was to do with his knee which he has had problems with in the past.
Next few games will be interesting to say the least. No Trent, VVD or Gomez

Salah and Mane do that every bloody week :)

 

[Rochdale Blue]

There are an increasing number of "fans" with a far greater knowledge than Pep. He picks the wrong teams, signs the wrong players, doesn't make the right subs, gets the players injured, can't attack, nor defend.
When I read the pre or post match threads, I get the impression there is a growing movement of disquiet , and i think to myself , "what is wrong with these people" ?

Nothing wrong a good slap wouldn't cure.

 

[kaz7]

Correct, but some casual fans could not see that.

what is a casual fan oh biggest blue ?

 

[kaz7]

There are an increasing number of "fans" with a far greater knowledge than Pep. He picks the wrong teams, signs the wrong players, doesn't make the right subs, gets the players injured, can't attack, nor defend.
When I read the pre or post match threads, I get the impression there is a growing movement of disquiet , and i think to myself , "what is wrong with these people" ?

"fans"

 

[asahartford1]

"fans"

"fans", or supporters, or enthusiasts, or any other word you like to use, that watch the game. And suggest that they know more than Pep Guardiola, think that he is "lame " "poor", or any other negative description one would like to use.
The "casual fan" would be for instance those that only watch City games sometimes, that don't watch other teams, that say they are fed up with football, or don't think that they will be returning to watch live games. Ones that don't know who is injured or out through suspension, don't really know the strengths and weaknesses of all the players. Ones who do not rate the qualities of Klopp or Kane, or Mane. It is not a criticism, just a statement of fact.

Perhaps you could enlighten me of the reasons pep has been getting such negative responses on the forum.

Your "biggest blue " comment is a bit stupid, as I am saying that I have a fraction of the football knowledge Mr Guardiola has. I do not feel worthy of constant criticism of him.

 

[kaz7]

"fans", or supporters, or enthusiasts, or any other word you like to use, that watch the game. And suggest that they know more than Pep Guardiola, think that he is "lame " "poor", or any other negative description one would like to use.
The "casual fan" would be for instance those that only watch City games sometimes, that don't watch other teams, that say they are fed up with football, or don't think that they will be returning to watch live games. Ones that don't know who is injured or out through suspension, don't really know the strengths and weaknesses of all the players. Ones who do not rate the qualities of Klopp or Kane, or Mane. It is not a criticism, just a statement of fact.

Perhaps you could enlighten me of the reasons pep has been getting such negative responses on the forum.

Your "biggest blue " comment is a bit stupid, as I am saying that I have a fraction of the football knowledge Mr Guardiola has. I do not feel worthy of constant criticism of him.

You act the bigger blue to other blues, it is not attractive

You can have an opinion on anything that is not your job, football included . We are invested in city , emotionally connected , after games, during games you get emotional responses . I dont think i have ever read anyone say they know better than pep

 

[mccity]

You act the bigger blue to other blues, it is not attractive

You can have an opinion on anything that is not your job, football included . We are invested in city , emotionally connected , after games, during games you get emotional responses . I dont think i have ever read anyone say they know better than pep

Constantly criticising players and Pep isn't attractive either. Besides, when was being attractive on a forum a goal?

You can have an opinion on anything yeah. But as much as you have the right to an opinion it doesn't entitle the bad ones to go unignored.

The bit about emotions is fine, but the lack of self awareness by many on that front (not you though in fairness) is a personal irritant of mine.

And nobody's ever written that they know more than Pep but you can sure infer it. When you have posters calling him a coward; still not understanding to this day why he picks Gundogan and Mahrez; and GENUINELY assuming that the only reason he likes Garcia is because he's biased towards Barcelona academy players to the point of being blinded by it, then yeah I'm inclined to agree with @asahartford1 on this one.

 

[mccity]

Your "biggest blue " comment is a bit stupid, as I am saying that I have a fraction of the football knowledge Mr Guardiola has. I do not feel worthy of constant criticism of him.

I respect this kind of humility, it's refreshing on here.

 

[asahartford1]

Constantly criticising players and Pep isn't attractive either. Besides, when was being attractive on a forum a goal?

You can have an opinion on anything yeah. But as much as you have the right to an opinion it doesn't entitle the bad ones to go unignored.

The bit about emotions is fine, but the lack of self awareness by many on that front (not you though in fairness) is a personal irritant of mine.

And nobody's ever written that they know more than Pep but you can sure infer it. When you have posters calling him a coward; still not understanding to this day why he picks Gundogan and Mahrez; and GENUINELY assuming that the only reason he likes Garcia is because he's biased towards Barcelona academy players to the point of being blinded by it, then yeah I'm inclined to agree with @asahartford1 on this one.

Your post explains how I feel, better than I could. One needs to be very arrogant or stupid(or both) to give pep the level of shit he has been getting on here.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Your post explains how I feel, better than I could. One needs to be very arrogant or stupid(or both) to give pep the level of shit he has been getting on here.

Apparently he only won the league cup last season so he has been found out, or at least that's what certain scribblers would have everyone believe. Pep is yesterdays man, overtaken by their hero on Merseyside, who manages a team that was very fortunate to get a draw last weekend. The fact they have conceded 18 goals and had the vast majority of var decisions go in their favour has been mysteriously overlooked, not the odd injury though, even though they are supposed to have the greatest defence in the history of football. Lots of msm hysteria and candle lighting for Virgil, while ours don't count because we allegedly have a huge squad and should easily be able to cope.

There's a large number of fans who are clueless and petty across the league, but its unbelievable that anyone calling themselves a City supporter could act in the way some are after the amazing amount of world class quality football and success Pep has brought to our club. We are all disappointed at the moment but some of these so-called fans should be totally ashamed of themselves.

 

[Blue Til Death]

What’s more worrying is that he went down when nobody was near him. He wasn’t tackled or anything and I think it was to do with his knee which he has had problems with in the past.
Next few games will be interesting to say the least. No Trent, VVD or Gomez

Salah and Mane will just have to step up their diving to offset the goals you will concede ...
They should be renamed Torvil n Dean..Nobody does a triple salco better before they hit the deck.. Pair of cheating cunts...!