Conveniently forgetting English clubs firms in the seventies and eighties? I never claimed rangers don't have a scummy element. I wasn't in Manchester btw in case you try to blanket me with others, 'pal'.I'd not bleat too loudly about who you think scum fans are pal. I've not forgotten when Rangers trashed Manchester in 2008. At least animals don't know it's wrong to piss and shit the streets.