Liverpool Post Match Thread

[Goater=Legend]

Think I'm over the result, I'm more frustrated that he will continue to play that formation again this season.

 

[MC ID]

Think I'm over the result, I'm more frustrated that he will continue to play that formation again this season.

I have to agree with this.

The result itself I'm over, the fact that line up and formation will be making more appearances, almost certainly when we go out of the CL boils my piss.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I have to agree with this.

The result itself I'm over, the fact that line up and formation will be making more appearances, almost certainly when we go out of the CL boils my piss.

I think if we all had an assurance that the only time we will see that formation is against low level teams, we would not be unduly worried & would be confident enough Pellegrini will have a good season.

But unfortunately...

 

[Father Paul]

I just watched the highlight and we could;ve taken a point .Not our day but we will bounce back.
Come on city

I suggest you tie yourself to a chair and watch the entire match and then state that we were a bit unlucky

 

[Goater=Legend]

I have this horrible feeling we will see it against Southampton at the weekend.

 

[Father Paul]

I have this horrible feeling we will see it against Southampton at the weekend.

One thing is for sure the Saints will travel up full of confidence and believe they can get a result. I fear if Kompany is still out they might do it.

 

[Big Yaya Wilko 12]

I have this horrible feeling we will see it against Southampton at the weekend.

You're not the only one!

 

[Newquayblue]

They could and possibly should have beaten us about 7-1, I don't really see the relevance of whether they did it on the break or took advantage of our errors. They defended reasonably well, when they had the opportunity to counter attack they did it quickly and incisively and some of their passing and movement was excellent. To say Liverpool didn't play well is the only nonsense here. You may think it's nonsense but I'm pretty sure Milner will survive under Klopp, as long as he retains his stamina levels and ability to press for 90 minutes.

1-7 is one way to look at it, but another way is it could also have been 6-3 for us, no point pursuing that line - no-one said Liverpool didn't play well pal - I'm saying they didn't play 'that' well - everyone seems to be eulogising about their magnificent performance except Klopp himself & I'm not either - When Klopp brings in his own players JM will either be out or in EXACTLY the same position he was in with us imo. I understand how we all feel after this bitterly embarrassing result - I'm just refusing to participate in the nauseating 'Liverpool mythology' pushed down our throats by them (n.b.: not Klopp) & yoonited fans who really hate City & take every opportunity to kick us when we're down, in order to keep us down. It's tough for us, but, you know what? - WE ARE TOUGH.

 

[The Black Shed]

If Pellegrini had done his homework, or maybe someone in the backroom staff could have given him a heads up, that Klopp came to City with Dortmund 3 years ago and that team gave an even better performance, with a similar high pressing, high tempo, counter attacking game. They absolutely murdered us and I still think that was one of the best away performances I have seen at City for many a year. If not for Hart having another blinder it could have embarrassing. It's no surprise that Klopp played the same way, the only difference being that on Saturday it was Yaya + Fernando in midfield, back then it was Yaya + Garcia. Surely he cannot continue to do this. Like many of us after the Sevilla game, we thought he'd turned a corner with formation and tactics, sadly not. It's still only November and every is bunching up in the table, but we have very talented players, capable enough of winning the title again.

 

[Newquayblue]

Funny thing is can anyone recall a game away at Anfield under Mancini in 2011 where I think Mancini fielded a weakened side (maybe with FA Cup semi final as priority?) and the scousers scented blood right from the off and wallopped us 3-0. I think Mancini was forced to field the full strength side in the second half just to stop the rot. He also said in the post match interview that he learned a very important lesson that night, one that he would never repeat again....although he never said what that was? Its a pity he didn't tell Pellers though......

I liked Mancini because he knew the importance of always being tough to beat and always keeping the opposition down to nil or one: which he pretty much did.

On Saturday I think Pellers fielded a weakened side (just like Wigan in the FA Cup) because he either he is always prepared to shrug it and risk our second raters (millionaires to a man) to see if they can prove they are up to it (we know the answer), or as guessed the club have the CL as priority (when we don't....).

For my ten pence worth there are two teams we should never field a weakened side against:

- Liverpool
- Arsenal

These have been our hex teams for decades and I think they will always be so for some strange reason: especially when we forget to have our A game ready: there is no opportunity for a B+ or less line-up or attitude.

Some more points:

a) we have now lost 4-1 in three games this year - in those games how many goals against were actually offside (but still given) - I make it 2 in each game
b) we have now scored two own goals in recent years against Liverpool, we've suffered slips and pratfalls etc costing goals, had penalties/sendings off awarded against for next to nothing all of which confirm the Lverpool hex - this is why we cannot field weakened teams against them.

The crazy thing is, I feel just as gutted about the infamous 3-2 reverse at Anfield with the Kompany miss kick going (as it would) straight to Coutinho - and yet we still pulled it off in the end. We also beat Chelsea away (Tevez and Bellamy) back in the day and Chelsea still strolled the leagure that year I think so not everything is nailed on (much to the displeasure of the pundits.)

Finally though one positive: its great to be on the scousers radar at last......are we now their biggest Derby? I think we are! Great!

Hope - we can nick the league in our usual style - with hindsight, its nights like Saturday that make it worth it when you do..... there's no strolling to titles for us I'm afraid.

Cheers bud - your post has helped.

 

[Newquayblue]

I don't want to seem petty minded but my view on Liverpool is that they and Klopp did nothing unexpected and his team played very much the same as they had in the defeat to Palace, in the 1-0 win over Bournmouth and in the 3-1 win at Chelsea. What was unexpected was the way we decided to stand back and admire them. If we give any side in the PL (or the championship) the time and space we gave Liverpool on Saturday we will be beaten comfortably.[/QUOTE]


Fully agree with this mate!

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Try watching the game dispassionately - I've watched the whole game replay twice since Saturday - it piggin' hurts like a b*@tch - obviously, we were abysmal but I stand by the view that they hit us in periods when we were on top - that even applied to their last goal.

It might have been a sort of on top but creating nothing kind of way. The first half highlights on the official site only showed Sergio's goal from us first half.

I think the vast majority of Prem teams would have beaten us Saturday but Liverpool had some slick passing moments. Whilst all goals came from either errors or lack of commitment to tackle, some of their passing was good and the back heel for the third was quality. (The rest of the play from us around the third was abysmal)

 

[Lancet Fluke]

1-7 is one way to look at it, but another way is it could also have been 6-3 for us

I think you might need help.

 

[Newquayblue]

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I don't want to seem petty minded but my view on Liverpool is that they and Klopp did nothing unexpected and his team played very much the same as they had in the defeat to Palace, in the 1-0 win over Bournmouth and in the 3-1 win at Chelsea. What was unexpected was the way we decided to stand back and admire them. If we give any side in the PL (or the championship) the time and space we gave Liverpool on Saturday we will be beaten comfortably.

This.

 

[Steve68]

This.

Yea. I cannot accept a team sheet written on a white flag or a performance by both players and manager to match. We can't sack the players and we all know, from past experience and his own words after the match, that Pellers will neither learn nor change.

There is nothing to be gained from labouring on, even if we manage to win games despite him. The only thing in his favour might be we cannot get a better guy at this point of the season.

 

[St.Pauli support]

It's not just the formation. That would be too simple. Sagna, Navas, even Mangala did have strong performances before the international break.
First half last Saturday was terrible! No confidence at all, mistakes all over the place. The team didn't have any answers to the tactical and mental challenges. That leaves to me the feeling that they are not very well prepared to react using a variety of different 'instruments'.

Klopps tactics are well known. There is enough open space in a high pressing team. Why couldn't they use it??
After such a shocking performance and so many questions left I have lost some confidence in the team and the manager.
My only hope is a one time influence of "Paris". But then again the capitulation at Tottenham comes to my mind.

Seems it takes more time to implement a winning mentality for every match at a club. You have to work hard and every day for such a philosophy. Bayern has it. United once had it bit more than nowadays. At least good to know that Real does no better in their Clasico...

Winning mentality is missing in the stands, too. So frustrating that the home ground allowed the away fans to piss on a Blue Boy without any reaction, no nill support for Raheem. We gave them away everything for free. No fight, no roar, no nothing.
What has to happen to make this place loud? Except for a 4-0 lead.

 

[Newquayblue]

I think you might need help.

Is this where I'm supposed to say you have a big nose? You're the one who's speculating about the score - don't try to be a smart Alec, obviously your not!

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Is this where I'm supposed to say you have a big nose? You're the one who's speculating about the score - don't try to be a smart Alec, obviously your not!

Funnily enough I do have quite a big nose.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

The worst thing about Saturday's result is all the Liverpool fans who've been very quiet for years have suddenly appeared again. I got "form is temporary and class is permanent" texts from two people who haven't spoken to me about football in years.

Our wretched performance will play up to their sense of entitlement for years. We really need to win in Anfield this season to send them back under their rocks again.

 

[Blue Smarties]

It's not just the formation. That would be too simple. Sagna, Navas, even Mangala did have strong performances before the international break.
First half last Saturday was terrible! No confidence at all, mistakes all over the place. The team didn't have any answers to the tactical and mental challenges. That leaves to me the feeling that they are not very well prepared to react using a variety of different 'instruments'.

Klopps tactics are well known. There is enough open space in a high pressing team. Why couldn't they use it??
After such a shocking performance and so many questions left I have lost some confidence in the team and the manager.
My only hope is a one time influence of "Paris". But then again the capitulation at Tottenham comes to my mind.

Seems it takes more time to implement a winning mentality for every match at a club. You have to work hard and every day for such a philosophy. Bayern has it. United once had it bit more than nowadays. At least good to know that Real does no better in their Clasico...

Winning mentality is missing in the stands, too. So frustrating that the home ground allowed the away fans to piss on a Blue Boy without any reaction, no nill support for Raheem. We gave them away everything for free. No fight, no roar, no nothing.
What has to happen to make this place loud? Except for a 4-0 lead.

I think Sagna and Mangala can be excused for a drop off in form since the international break.