Liverpool - post match thread.

[jared]

Spot on. He was a complete cnut that night, and I hope he wins fuck all the rest of his career

I disliked him since he ran down his contract to get a fat signing fee for Liverpool and celebrating like that infront of city fans is shitty form

 

[cleavers]

Often that way when the build up is slow and the option to pass sideways is the easy option.

That in itself is not a lack of effort, its lack of ingenuity, but it also helps the other team put 10 players in the way, as we found last night.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

That in itself is not a lack of effort, its lack of ingenuity, but it also helps the other team put 10 players in the way, as we found last night.

well let's stop conceding stupidly soft goals then and play with the tempo that, for example, utterly humiliated United in the opening minute of the OT derby in Pelle's first season. That should be the blueprint, the tempo for every single game and it was Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko, Silva in that line-up with that intensity, so don't tell me they can't do it.

None of them put the shift in they should have on Saturday, that's in their locker but they only do it when they can be arsed, feel up for it or have someone on the pitch like Vinnie forcing them to show some bollocks. Unless KDB fancies it and has his magic locker open this team has less balls than Hitler.

 

[mancity1]

That in itself is not a lack of effort, its lack of ingenuity, but it also helps the other team put 10 players in the way, as we found last night.

Agreed more about the way we played.

Too pedestrian again.

Liverpool just did what they had to without impressing.

However of the sides battling for fourth at present we seem to be the most vulnerable and we will have to increase our intensity and create more space in attack which you do by moving the ball quicker with more one touch football.

Need an impressive performance and win today otherwise the writing is well and truly on the wall.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Looks like the Bentley is in reverse to me

Said from the perspective of someone moving forward without realizing the Bentley is also moving forward, just not as quickly as them, or they would like!

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

We saw at the start of the season the way Guardiola wants them to play - you can argue that the Premier League managers have done what great managers in other leagues couldn't (figure out how to stop it) or you can accept that with injuries, suspensions and the wearing down of players through the schedule that the players have reverted to what they know best, not necessarily deliberately. The new ways are not instinctive to them yet, and some will never be able to cope, but it's going to take a little time to figure all that out and bring in replacements where necessary.

Noticeable in the last few games we have stepped up in the second half following what has no doubt been a sharp reminder of what is expected during HT.

We've seen for a couple or three seasons now that this group has a habit of being incredibly ponderous in attack, and that is continuing. This window is Guardiola's first chance to take action on the things he's seen, and he might not even take it as it's so hard to buy in January. The accounts of his conversation with Txiki though suggest he is already annoyed.

 

[gomer27]

We saw at the start of the season the way Guardiola wants them to play - you can argue that the Premier League managers have done what great managers in other leagues couldn't (figure out how to stop it) or you can accept that with injuries, suspensions and the wearing down of players through the schedule that the players have reverted to what they know best, not necessarily deliberately. The new ways are not instinctive to them yet, and some will never be able to cope, but it's going to take a little time to figure all that out and bring in replacements where necessary.

Noticeable in the last few games we have stepped up in the second half following what has no doubt been a sharp reminder of what is expected during HT.

We've seen for a couple or three seasons now that this group has a habit of being incredibly ponderous in attack, and that is continuing. This window is Guardiola's first chance to take action on the things he's seen, and he might not even take it as it's so hard to buy in January. The accounts of his conversation with Txiki though suggest he is already annoyed.

I'm glad he is annoyed. For all those saying pep doesn't care or is just here for the money that is crap

 

[CrownPointBlue]

Or maybe it will take longer than 6 months for Pep to get his ideas across to the players s also bring in the players he needs and wants. Did Klopp smash it within 6 months at Liverpool, no he didn't. Apart from the goal did Klopp's Liverpool offer anything else , nope.

These things take time, and we all knew our squad needed an overhaul especially in defence

Agree in part,however it doesn't take time to get the substitutions on or right. Or to select the better right back. Or to know how Spuds & Leicester set up and play.

Pep has got some things right but the things he's got wrong have really surprised & disappointed me. He must learn & adapt quickly if this season isn't to fizzle out as a la Pellergrini.

 

[iamkloot]

our defending has been pretty poor but the big problem for me is going forward. The build up play looks great at times but there are never enough players in the box. We need a player like Sanchez who sets play up and a few seconds later finds himself in or around the box

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Or maybe it will take longer than 6 months for Pep to get his ideas across to the players s also bring in the players he needs and wants. Did Klopp smash it within 6 months at Liverpool, no he didn't. Apart from the goal did Klopp's Liverpool offer anything else , nope.

These things take time, and we all knew our squad needed an overhaul especially in defence

It's because their manager had a plan to beat us and carried it out. That is starting quickly and pressing us into a mistake knowing we will start slow. Get a goal in the first 20 minutes then sit deep and defend KNOWING we will just lose our fizz in the last third and pass it across the midfield 8, then try to get another on the counter.

Even Maureen went to anfield with a plan to get a point and got one.

We set up and went out to play in entirely the same predictable way that we have done for the last 3 years.

 

[Marvin]

our defending has been pretty poor but the big problem for me is going forward. The build up play looks great at times but there are never enough players in the box. We need a player like Sanchez who sets play up and a few seconds later finds himself in or around the box

Sane, Sterling out wide. Silva and KDB pulling the strings in the middle and one of Kelechi, Jesus or Aguero down the middle. That's the best forward line in the premiership by far, and we have players who had come in and cover too. I am confident we'll still be Chelsea's main challengers this season

 

[iamkloot]

Sane, Sterling out wide. Silva and KDB pulling the strings in the middle and one of Kelechi, Jesus or Aguero down the middle. That's the best forward line in the premiership by far, and we have players who had come in and cover too. I am confident we'll still be Chelsea's main challengers this season

the first few games of the season kdb and silva almost played next to each other, we were great then...i agree with your system

 

[waspish]

Sane, Sterling out wide. Silva and KDB pulling the strings in the middle and one of Kelechi, Jesus or Aguero down the middle. That's the best forward line in the premiership by far, and we have players who had come in and cover too. I am confident we'll still be Chelsea's main challengers this season

Something like this.

Aguero

Jesus

Sterling Silva Kdb Sane

Fernandiniho

Stones Kompany Otemendi

Bravo

 

[iamkloot]

Something like this.

Aguero

Jesus

Sterling Silva Kdb Sane

Fernandiniho

Stones Kompany Otemendi

Bravo

i would have Fernando playing in front of our back 3, i would like to see Fernandinho in front of goal more often

 

[Mikejl]

Sadly no agenda thread these days, however when reading the post match analysis of Guardiola & his frustration I came across this, words chosen carefully or not?

In one respect, the message Guardiola promotes is correct. Toure, a veteran of two successful title challenges at the Etihad Stadium, pointed to how City extricated themselves from difficult positions in 2012 and 2014 to pilfer the trophy on the final day. Another 19 games, then, offers opportunity.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...mask-slip-defeat-Liverpool.html#ixzz4UaveZ0UO

 

[Chappie]

Something like this.

Aguero

Jesus

Sterling Silva Kdb Sane

Fernandiniho

Stones Kompany Otemendi

Bravo

And that in a nutshell is our problem, all great footballers,but not one of that front six will win the ball back for you.
That's Peps problem, getting a balanced side from the players we have at the moment.

 

[waspish]

And that in a nutshell is our problem, all great footballers,but not one of that front six will win the ball back for you.
That's Peps problem, getting a balanced side from the players we have at the moment.

The opposition will give us it back with the quick closing down by the team, Pep tactics/methods make this happen.

 

[hcblue95]

We need to fit both Aguero and Jesus in the team, we're not going to score many goals this season if we continue the ponderous play with only Aguero as a goalscorer.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I'll probably get castigated for this but it is only an opinion. OK?

I am so sick and tired of hearing, both from the media, Guardiola and Manchester City fans, that Guardiola did well with Barcelona, with Bayern Munich!! Yes he did and well done to him but those times are (or should be) a memory, just as ours with our past 2 managers are, and have gone now. Now it is time to concentrate 100% on MANCHESTER CITY!! We need a manager who just gets on with the job here without constantly referring back to his past glories. We need a manager who buys into our team. It's no good pumping money into it, we become what the press and the media accuse us of being, just a money club. We want Manchester City to be a winning club with a winning mentality without always saying we need x player or z player! The new players we brought in are supposed to be the best, let them show us that.

Rant over. Off to the match soon. Come on MANCHESTER CITY. Come on Blues. :-)

 

[YaYa's Left Peg]

I'll probably get castigated for this but it is only an opinion. OK?

I am so sick and tired of hearing, both from the media, Guardiola and Manchester City fans, that Guardiola did well with Barcelona, with Bayern Munich!! Yes he did and well done to him but those times are (or should be) a memory, just as ours with our past 2 managers are, and have gone now. Now it is time to concentrate 100% on MANCHESTER CITY!! We need a manager who just gets on with the job here without constantly referring back to his past glories. We need a manager who buys into our team. It's no good pumping money into it, we become what the press and the media accuse us of being, just a money club. We want Manchester City to be a winning club with a winning mentality without always saying we need x player or z player! The new players we brought in are supposed to be the best, let them show us that.

Rant over. Off to the match soon. Come on MANCHESTER CITY. Come on Blues. :-)

I said much the same yesterday and was accused of having a weak mentality!