Liverpool terror attack

Summerbuzz said:
No reason it couldn't have gone off by accident.

Otherwise, it's just modern terrorism.

Once upon a time, terrorists went for the biggest targets, high ranking individuals, armed installations. But there's a lot of wierd ideas out there, some reckon the newer tactics are to unsettle and confuse people, baffle them, hurt their expectations of safety. Create murders and that are different to what's happened before, because people won't know how to react to them. So instead of yet another bomb, we've seem them using knives in graphic attacks. Instead of footage of a building with it's windows blown out, you get pictures of a crazed individual holding a bloody knife looking right at the camera, and the knowledge of what some of us saw on ISIS videos happened here on a random street.

So here it could be they were going for the opposite sort of target. Instead of politicians or soldiers, or some city workers and commuters, they go for women and the unwell... and NHS workers. How do you process that? It's designed to cause people to talk about it, it gets shared more. It's designed to outrage - NHS workers as a whole are a celebrated group. And if the weak, unwell, and females are targetted, who isn't somewhat outraged by the 'cowardice' of that attack? That leaves a bit of a pit of fear and a fresh disgust and hatred in our mouths. And that's the idea of modern terrorism. Maximum upset, maximum confusion. Maximum debate and hatred.

Moreover, it being a woman's hospital will trigger angry debate between people about women's rights and society... also Islam and religion. The political issues around women's bodies - abortion, contraception, pornography / censorship, women's rights in Islamic states, FGM. We've seen some women protest that they feel they are less safe than in recent decades. There's also a debate about them having spaces of their own for their own issues, and who should have access to it. All of that now becomes part of the discussion about this event, or part of the atmosphere surrounding it.

What I'd say goes back to Lee Rigsby. The ideology of terrorism is now that their best, most effective method of attack and undermining our society, is to ruin any idea we have in our heads of us being relatively safe in our streets, in our society. They know if they can do that, we'll end up running around in circles, inevitably throwing around more hate and fear and over-reactions, rather than progressing in an atmosphere of peace and safety, trusting each other and leaving things to the existing justice systems and so on, as we have done for decades, centuries...
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In the nicest possible way to yourself I rather wish I hadn't asked now having read that.
 
Sounds like the fatality was the terrorist with the Taxi Driver the one who’s injured, going off reports it sounds like he’s probably saved quite a few lives.
 
Looks like the cabbie was a hero and realised the **** in the back had a bomb, locked the cab so he couldn’t get out and enter the hospital.

Bomb went off and only killed the **** wearing the vest.

Cabbie not thought to have injuries that pose a threat to life, guess he got out in time.



I am sure more will come but this is what the major news outlets are saying.
 
I read elsewhere that there was a Remembrance Day parade going on around the corner. So the hospital may not necessarily have been the target.

Regardless of the target, very scary and well done to the driver for preventing greater loss of life, if he was indeed intending to murder people en-masse.
 
Octavian said:
Looks like the cabbie was a hero and realised the **** in the back had a bomb, locked the cab so he couldn’t get out and enter the hospital.

Bomb went off and only killed the **** wearing the vest.

Cabbie not thought to have injuries that pose a threat to life, guess he got out in time.



I am sure more will come but this is what the major news outlets are saying.
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My Spidey senses were tingling on News 24 just now as the news anchor called it a car bombing then quickly corrected himself.
 
Looks like the anti terrorist squad have moved at lightening speed to arrest associates. Question: did they get a prior warning?
 
Summerbuzz said:
No reason it couldn't have gone off by accident.

Otherwise, it's just modern terrorism.

Once upon a time, terrorists went for the biggest targets, high ranking individuals, armed installations. But there's a lot of wierd ideas out there, some reckon the newer tactics are to unsettle and confuse people, baffle them, hurt their expectations of safety. Create murders and that are different to what's happened before, because people won't know how to react to them. So instead of yet another bomb, we've seem them using knives in graphic attacks. Instead of footage of a building with it's windows blown out, you get pictures of a crazed individual holding a bloody knife looking right at the camera, and the knowledge of what some of us saw on ISIS videos happened here on a random street.

So here it could be they were going for the opposite sort of target. Instead of politicians or soldiers, or some city workers and commuters, they go for women and the unwell... and NHS workers. How do you process that? It's designed to cause people to talk about it, it gets shared more. It's designed to outrage - NHS workers as a whole are a celebrated group. And if the weak, unwell, and females are targetted, who isn't somewhat outraged by the 'cowardice' of that attack? That leaves a bit of a pit of fear and a fresh disgust and hatred in our mouths. And that's the idea of modern terrorism. Maximum upset, maximum confusion. Maximum debate and hatred.

Moreover, it being a woman's hospital will trigger angry debate between people about women's rights and society... also Islam and religion. The political issues around women's bodies - abortion, contraception, pornography / censorship, women's rights in Islamic states, FGM. We've seen some women protest that they feel they are less safe than in recent decades. There's also a debate about them having spaces of their own for their own issues, and who should have access to it. All of that now becomes part of the discussion about this event, or part of the atmosphere surrounding it.

What I'd say goes back to Lee Rigsby. The ideology of terrorism is now that their best, most effective method of attack and undermining our society, is to ruin any idea we have in our heads of us being relatively safe in our streets, in our society. They know if they can do that, we'll end up running around in circles, inevitably throwing around more hate and fear and over-reactions, rather than progressing in an atmosphere of peace and safety, trusting each other and leaving things to the existing justice systems and so on, as we have done for decades, centuries...
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Decades, centuries, of trust. I wonder what’s changed?
 
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