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Re: Liverpool Thread 2012
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sofialady said:The Future's Blue said:665 pages on the Rags, 277 on the Spuds, only 113 for the Dippers after everything they've done this season; and nothing good? Actually shows how low/hated they are.sofialady said:I find it hillarious that there is a 112 page thread just about Liverpool this year and then we say they aren't a big club and are irrelevant.
All those jealous years and we can finally look down our noses at them. Feels good tbh. Though I think people get a bit too carried away on here. We were shit for like 100 years before now and then we say they're irrelevant because they've not had much success for three years amid financial turmoil.
Hated Dalglish, I see why they love him since he is accredited to building a fantastic 80's Liverpool side which is heralded as one of the greatest of all time among 60's Ajax, 90's Milan or the Barcelona of now. Shame he's such a grumpy old git nowadays incapable of getting his side to win more than two games on the bounce. Definitely lost his touch.
I don't understand why they all suddenly want Rafa back. Haven't they learned? I mean aren't they concerned with severing a relationship with another club legend of theirs? I mean I get it, they want to get back into the Champions League, and Rafa was the last man to do that but in the same breadth he's the man that took a side with Torres, Mascherno, Agger, Riena, Gerrard, Kuyt, Benayoun, Glen Johnson etc to seventh. A team that finished with 86 points a record for a second placed team (until now that is) to a measly 63.
I think Martinez is a very talented man. Is he the man to get them back to what what they were? I don't know. It's impossible to say. You never would have thought Capello would become what he is when he first won a league in Serie A. I think he'll do well for them but clearly their owners are more concerned with the director of football role(s) and that is where they expect the success to come from. Clearly because of the disastrous summer oversaw by Comolli and Dalglish, they never want 100m+ gross spend to be returned with almost nothing of note. This to me is why they seem to want to go for a 'head coach' so to speak instead of a manager like Rafa or Capello, who because of their pedigree would expect 100% control. Martinez would be able to galvanize the dressing room and get the best out of his players I suppose.
I get why they are worried about FSG considering the shambles that were H&G but FSG already restored a once great sporting brand in the Boston Red Sox to what they are now. They seem to want to do it again. They follow a simple model, if they win, FSG win. They don't have ridiculous resources like our owners but they are capable of building a sustained and prosperous sporting brand. They wouldn't have bought Liverpool for any other reason, considering the parallels you can draw between Liverpool and the Red Sox or even Anfield and Fenway Park.
Damn, I am so glad we've won the league. So so glad we aren't in that place when we came 10th and very unsure of what was to come. Big money signings not doing the business, incapable manager. I'm just glad we've finally left that 'in transition phase'.
You'd already know that though, right?
My problem is not that many of you hate them. It's that we give them this much attention and then all the comments in the thread contradict the fact that we talk about them so much! 'they are irrelevant' 'they are so past it' 'delusional and obssessed with the past' (the one I think is the stupidest comment aimed at them) 'they have no class' when you read half the comments in here and you'll struggle to find an intelligent comment and then we mock RAWK. Jesus Christ. Go on a Liverpool forum, you'll struggle to find anying about Man City! There's the off comment that most opposition fans believe in that we buy success blah blah but most of the time they like us because we share a common interest. Hating United. I think having 600 plus pages on the Rags is equally pathetic.
If I was an opposition fan i'd just laugh at the fact that we put this much effort into hating them. And 227 pages on the Spuds? What the hell? Wow are we Arsenal? Who cares about that small time Europa League outfit? If I was a spuds fan i'd be honoured that we mean so much to City!
Most City fans are known as a nice bunch, revelling in the gold pot the Sheikhs have given us and just happy to be doing so well, you come on here and it's actually imho worse than RAWK. Hardly any decent intelligent or constructive discussions. Just pure hatred and derision aimed at anything and everything.
113 pages on a team that has been on one of the worst runs of form in almost 50 years. Relegation form since they won the CC. That is why there is nothing good in this thread. Not because they are 'hated'. I don't see the point in hating them because for the time being, they aren't a threat to us, don't look likely to become threats to us and aren't rivals anyway. Weird honestly.
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