Liverpool Thread 2011/12

[Prestwich_Blue]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

Anyone see the film "Moneyball" with Brad Pitt and Seth Green? Essentially its about how a stats based system helped the Oakland Athletics team compete with a very low annual budget against the big boys, setting a winning streak record along the way. Henry hired Bill James for Boston, who wrote the moneyball book and came up with the mathematical equations to bring clarity to player statistics. The red sox used his system to recruit players, with the ultimate success of two world series. Que Damien Comolli, who Billy Beane (the person who Pitt plays in Moneyball), has heaped praise on for following the Moneyball way. Here's the problem though, baseball has very few variables compared to football and even pro-zone has not been able to define exactly what clarity its stats can bring to the game. As long as Henry and his crew are in charge, nothing much will change.

Seriously that's an excellent post. Baseball is a team game but it relies mainly on individual performances. A batter bats and a pitcher pitches and if they're good then they will haqve good stats. It's the same in cricket where the better batsmen and bowlers stand out individually.

Football is a different dynamic where the way the whole team play and the mix of players is a big factor. Of course there are outstanding players like Ronaldo & Messi that would imrove any team but Villa played to Downing's strengths and I genuinely thought he'd be the buy of the season as Liverpool would actually give him more opportunities. But they don't play the same way as Villa, who were quite direct and relied on getting the ball into the corners.

 

[Mclovin]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

Anyone see the film "Moneyball" with Brad Pitt and Seth Green? Essentially its about how a stats based system helped the Oakland Athletics team compete with a very low annual budget against the big boys, setting a winning streak record along the way. Henry hired Bill James for Boston, who wrote the moneyball book and came up with the mathematical equations to bring clarity to player statistics. The red sox used his system to recruit players, with the ultimate success of two world series. Que Damien Comolli, who Billy Beane (the person who Pitt plays in Moneyball), has heaped praise on for following the Moneyball way. Here's the problem though, baseball has very few variables compared to football and even pro-zone has not been able to define exactly what clarity its stats can bring to the game. As long as Henry and his crew are in charge, nothing much will change.

Seriously that's an excellent post. Baseball is a team game but it relies mainly on individual performances. A batter bats and a pitcher pitches and if they're good then they will haqve good stats. It's the same in cricket where the better batsmen and bowlers stand out individually.

Football is a different dynamic where the way the whole team play and the mix of players is a big factor. Of course there are outstanding players like Ronaldo & Messi that would imrove any team but Villa played to Downing's strengths and I genuinely thought he'd be the buy of the season as Liverpool would actually give him more opportunities. But they don't play the same way as Villa, who were quite direct and relied on getting the ball into the corners.

How wrong you were lol

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

Anyone see the film "Moneyball" with Brad Pitt and Seth Green? Essentially its about how a stats based system helped the Oakland Athletics team compete with a very low annual budget against the big boys, setting a winning streak record along the way. Henry hired Bill James for Boston, who wrote the moneyball book and came up with the mathematical equations to bring clarity to player statistics. The red sox used his system to recruit players, with the ultimate success of two world series. Que Damien Comolli, who Billy Beane (the person who Pitt plays in Moneyball), has heaped praise on for following the Moneyball way. Here's the problem though, baseball has very few variables compared to football and even pro-zone has not been able to define exactly what clarity its stats can bring to the game. As long as Henry and his crew are in charge, nothing much will change.

Seriously that's an excellent post. Baseball is a team game but it relies mainly on individual performances. A batter bats and a pitcher pitches and if they're good then they will haqve good stats. It's the same in cricket where the better batsmen and bowlers stand out individually.

Football is a different dynamic where the way the whole team play and the mix of players is a big factor. Of course there are outstanding players like Ronaldo & Messi that would imrove any team but Villa played to Downing's strengths and I genuinely thought he'd be the buy of the season as Liverpool would actually give him more opportunities. But they don't play the same way as Villa, who were quite direct and relied on getting the ball into the corners.

How wrong you were lol

You can say that again! Would have been hard to be more wrong.

 

[squirtyflower]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

Seriously that's an excellent post. Baseball is a team game but it relies mainly on individual performances. A batter bats and a pitcher pitches and if they're good then they will haqve good stats. It's the same in cricket where the better batsmen and bowlers stand out individually.

Football is a different dynamic where the way the whole team play and the mix of players is a big factor. Of course there are outstanding players like Ronaldo & Messi that would imrove any team but Villa played to Downing's strengths and I genuinely thought he'd be the buy of the season as Liverpool would actually give him more opportunities. But they don't play the same way as Villa, who were quite direct and relied on getting the ball into the corners.

How wrong you were lol

You can say that again! Would have been hard to be more wrong.

I think Jonah Hill would have been a better buy that Downing, although Downing is unintentionally funnier

 

[VOOMER]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

How wrong you were lol

You can say that again! Would have been hard to be more wrong.

I think Jonah Hill would have been a better buy that Downing, although Downing is unintentionally funnier

my bad i was thinking of someone truly funny Seth Green, while trying to block out the poor man's john belushi from my memory!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

Anyone see the film "Moneyball" with Brad Pitt and Seth Green? Essentially its about how a stats based system helped the Oakland Athletics team compete with a very low annual budget against the big boys, setting a winning streak record along the way. Henry hired Bill James for Boston, who wrote the moneyball book and came up with the mathematical equations to bring clarity to player statistics. The red sox used his system to recruit players, with the ultimate success of two world series. Que Damien Comolli, who Billy Beane (the person who Pitt plays in Moneyball), has heaped praise on for following the Moneyball way. Here's the problem though, baseball has very few variables compared to football and even pro-zone has not been able to define exactly what clarity its stats can bring to the game. As long as Henry and his crew are in charge, nothing much will change.

Seriously that's an excellent post. Baseball is a team game but it relies mainly on individual performances. A batter bats and a pitcher pitches and if they're good then they will haqve good stats. It's the same in cricket where the better batsmen and bowlers stand out individually.

Football is a different dynamic where the way the whole team play and the mix of players is a big factor. Of course there are outstanding players like Ronaldo & Messi that would imrove any team but Villa played to Downing's strengths and I genuinely thought he'd be the buy of the season as Liverpool would actually give him more opportunities. But they don't play the same way as Villa, who were quite direct and relied on getting the ball into the corners.

Baseball is alot more complicated than just pitching and batting in fact there are 100's of different area on each part to look at including fielding, baseman and the catcher but it still remains that as a sport the moneyball idea works and it will never ever work in football for so many reasons im surprised they even tried

 

[Chungo]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

Kenny Dalgleish goes into church to confession "forgive me father for i have sinned"
"come forth my child " said the father
"come forth " said king Kenny "we'll be f......... lucky to come tenth !!!!!!!!!"

 

[Blue Haze]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

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Look how pleased they are with a draw at home against Villa.

They truly are mid table in every way.

 

[TCIB]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=292067.0

Look how pleased they are with a draw at home against Villa.

They truly are mid table in every way.

"A draw, get in!! :D

If we could have shown that effort at the end for most parts this season we wouldn't be in such a state. "

 

[JamesMCFC]

Re: Liverpool Thread 2012

Bless them

And they think they can attract the likes of Hazzard and Cavani

hahaha