Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Len Rum said:
Matty said:
superseiyan said:
Why is it obvious other teams will strengthen and progress, but it's obvious that we'll weaken and regress significantly? How come Arsenal who spent more days than anyone in 1st place didn't collapse, but we collapsed because we couldn't win 14 games in a row?

If we drop off slightly, that's still finishing a distant 3rd or 4th. There'll be a gap between you and Chelsea at 1/2 and the others--that's the real reason for the window shutting, not that "Liverpool FC will be totally clueless and not know what to do with the indignity of playing in Europe" .

Hopefully if we're not going to be challenging at the top as you predict, you win it again rather than the Rags, Chelski or Gunners. Nice coach, attractive style and not as cuntish, dirty, hypocritical, etc as the other three.

Liverpool had a unique set of advantages this season that they will not be able to exploit next season:-

1 - They played substantially less games than the other Champion's League qualifying sides. The likes of City, Chelsea and Arsenal played in the region of 56/57 games this season, Liverpool played just 43. This allowed Liverpool the luxury of resting players during midweeks, preparing all week for the next Premier League game, free from the preparation, training and travel associated with European football. It also allowed Liverpool to forgo the, now essential, squad rotation that those additional 15 or so matches would have forced. Suarez played virtually every minute of every game (once he returned from his enforced absence at the start of the season), this was noticeable in the last few games where he look emotionally, and physically, drained and not the same player as a few months before. Imagine that situation, but add 15 games on top, it's just impossible for someone to remain sharp and fit for that entire period.

2 - Based on their 7th place finish in the 2012/13 season no-one thought anything of Liverpool when it came to their title chances last season, it was only when they started their post Christmas run of victories that their name was being included in the title race, and even then as long shots until the last couple of months. This meant there was no pressure at all on the players, they could play with freedom, uninhibited by expectation.

There are a few reasons why you could reasonably expect Chelsea, City and United (presumably) to progress next season, and Liverpool not to do so by as great a margin (they may progress, they may stay still, or they may regress, but I simply can't see them taking the leap needed to challenge for the title again).

Firstly, assuming Van Gaal joins United, they alongside City and Chelsea will have vastly experienced managers, skilled in building squads, tactics, and organizing their sides, both offensively and defensively. Rodgers is not, as yet, hugely experienced (he's never managed a side in Europe) and his tactics last season defensively left a lot to be desired.

Secondly, in City and Chelsea's cases, the squad quality and depth is already there, it will be a case of a few additions and tweaks to get the squad right. Liverpool need far more sweeping changes, the squad depth simply isn't there, and there are some in the starting 11 that may well have just had their career years. The defense needs a serious look at it.

Thirdly, in United's case they will have all the advantages this coming season that Liverpool just experienced. They will be under the radar, as many will expect them to struggle, and they will have a handful of games compared to their rivals, as they aren't in Europe.

Fourthly, in City's case, we won the league despite missing some key players for sizeable periods of time. Silva, Nasri, Kompany and Toure all missed at least a month of the season, in some cases more than that. Aguero, despite scoring 28 goals, missed 3 months all told, and Jovetic was hampered by injuries throughout the season. Even if only half of those players have full seasons with us the improvement to our fortunes will be measurable.
Also other teams have now sussed them out and will adjust their tactics accordingly to counteract Loserpool's way of playing.
And if Man Utd are involved in the top 4 next season, Suarez's antics will not go unchallenged as they did this season.
 
I don't think Liverpool will finish top four next season.

An extra 20 games, with their style, will be it so much harder for them. They remind me a little of Dortmund and I think they'll go the same way - Dortmund have been poor all season with a lot of injuries due to their style. Liverpool players work so hard (ridiculously hard in the opening 30 mins of games) that I think it will eventually catch up with them.

Their squad is so thin to be playing around 60 games next season.. Our bench has Negredo, Jovetic, Fernandinho and Navas, Liverpool's has Aspas, Moses, Cissohko and Lucas.
 
CityFan94 said:
I don't think Liverpool will finish top four next season.

An extra 20 games, with their style, will be it so much harder for them. They remind me a little of Dortmund and I think they'll go the same way - Dortmund have been poor all season with a lot of injuries due to their style. Liverpool players work so hard (ridiculously hard in the opening 30 mins of games) that I think it will eventually catch up with them.

Their squad is so thin to be playing around 60 games next season.. Our bench has Negredo, Jovetic, Fernandinho and Navas, Liverpool's has Aspas, Moses, Cissohko and Lucas.
Not forgetting Kolo!
 
I wonder if that truly comically deluded scouser will be back.

Hope so he was amusing in half witted manner
 
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unsworthblue said:
that must be where i am going wrong in life,not understanding human nature! i understand what is going on and i understand how relieved everyone is that we won the league i just don't understand how alot of our fans are turning into sneering little red twats, gloating like snivelling we are considerably better than you wankers,of course its great to celebrate i've done more than my fair share of that myself but all this 'haha look at the bindipping murdering scouse bastards' 'look at RAWK' 'RAWK is going mental' RAWK RAWK RAWK i'm fucking sick of hearing about this fucking RAWK,who gives a fuck about RAWK,your all obsessed with fucking hating instead of loving the fact that we have won,more concerned that they have lost,of course i understand human nature that most people are nasty twats who like to shout their mouths off and strut their stuff and preach their bile and hated but i don't find myself doing that,i'll take the gentlemans approach to winning and not get involved in the embarrassing gloating and sneering hysterics,i know alot of it is because of people being drunk but hopefully when people sober up and calm down alot of the City fans can return to be the normal down to earth human beings they used to be before becoming obsessed with RAWK

My word, you really are becoming a boring ****. Why are you reading the Liverpool thread day after day after day if it's winding you up so much?
 

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