Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Source https://www.quora.com/Why-do-many-people-hate-Liverpool

I often go back to this post. And these last couple of days is no exception. Enjoyable read.

Liverpool fans believe that Liverpool are indeed God’s own football club and any criticism is akin to blasphemy. One reason is that from the early 1970s until about 1990, Liverpool used to win things. Because of this they attract the type of person who will support only success, and who, in the main, have no connection with the city of Liverpool. This type of fan simply cannot accept that Liverpool are just another football club.

The self delusion at Liverpool F. C. is truly incredible to those who haven’t experienced it at first hand. Take the ownership of the club, for one example - the former owner David Moores sold the club to George Gillett and Tom Hicks a few years ago - this was greeted with joy by most Liverpool fans, believing that these Americans would help them get a new ground. When it became clear that no new ground would be forthcoming, Liverpool fans protested against the owners until a new owner bought the club - another American commodities broker. Despite this, Liverpool fans continue to insist that Liverpool FC is somehow more pure than other clubs. In reality, of course, the owners much prefer to have fans from far away attending matches, as they are more likely to buy overpriced club merchandise than local people.

Criticism of Liverpool F. C. in the mainstream football media is rare - for example, when Liverpool captain Steve Gerrard’s errors cost England the match in the World Cup against Uruguay in 2014, he somehow escaped blame by the TV pundits. The explanation for this is simple - TV pundits are disproportionately former Liverpool players; Michael Owen, Graeme Souness, Alan Hansen, Stephen Warnock, Stan Collymore, Steve McManaman, Dieter Haman, Jamie Redknapp, Mark Lawrenson, Phil Thompson, Steve Gerrard, Danny Murphy, Jim Beglin, Jamie Carragher and many others. Normally, when a match is broadcast live, it is common to have one ex-player from each team in the studio. It is by no means unusual to see a televised Liverpool game with both pundits being former Liverpool players. Jose Mourinho has rightly said that the media all love Liverpool. Check on YouTube for the commentary by Martin Tyler on Liverpool V Manchester City a few years ago - the contrast between his hysterical joy when Liverpool score, and his muted reaction to Manchester City’s goals is quite remarkable.

It is a common saying among football fans that Liverpool are “ashamed of nothing, outraged by everything”. The conduct of their supporters over the years is shameful - rocking an ambulance carrying an injured Manchester United player from the ground; spitting on Eric Cantona in the 1996 Cup Final; constantly singing about the Munich Air Crash and so on. The worst example of Hooliganism involving British clubs was the Heysel Stadium disaster in 1984, when rioting Liverpool fans caused the deaths of 39 Juventus fans and the subsequent banning of English clubs from European competitions for years. Liverpool fans try to convince themselves that they were blameless; it was the fault of the police, the stadium itself, Juventus fans, and somehow they mysteriously blame Chelsea supporters for the outrage.

It is well known in football circles that Liverpool are disproportionately favoured in regard to refereeing decisions. In two cup finals (League Cup V Everton in 1984, FA Cup V Arsenal in 2001), Liverpool defenders handled shots on the goal-line, but in neither case was the offender punished nor were penalties awarded. There are countless less high profile examples; listing then would take up days. “The Secret Footballer”, a former professional footballer wrote about a Liverpool Defender, Jamie Carragher, in the following terms: “I have never seen any other player getting away with so many offences on a football pitch - holding, tripping, bad tackles and especially handballs. It was incredible how he’d get away with so many things on the pitch.” Liverpool’s local rivals, Everton, have been awarded just two penalties at Anfield in 80 years, despite several blatant offences fully justifying penalty awards. It comes as no surprise to learn that since the Premiership began in 1992, the team awarded the most penalties is Liverpool.

In no player was the leniency to Liverpool more clearly shown than Luis Suarez. Throughout his Liverpool career, he dived, cheated, deliberately injured other players, gouged, kicked and even bit opponents, but he was NEVER dismissed by a referee. Suarez racially abused a black player, and was found guilty by the FA - the Liverpool players’ reaction? They wore Suarez T-shirts before their next game! Ironically, when Suarez returned to Anfield as a Barcelona player, he was greeted with chants of “Cheat! Cheat!”

An example of Liverpool F. C’s morality, from the Daily Telegraph dated April 12

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2017:

Why have Liverpool been hit with a transfer ban on academy players?

They tapped up and offered inducements to a Stoke City schoolboy and his family in order to lure him to Anfield. Both are against rules brought in to prevent the poaching of players who clubs invest time and money in developing. They were banned from signing for at least a year players who had been registered at another academy during the previous 18 months. A further one-year ban was suspended for three years and the club were also fined £100,000.

What did Liverpool do wrong?

The Premier League found Liverpool had arranged an all-expenses-paid trip for the boy and his family to a game at Anfield and had made "other efforts" to lure him from Stoke. Those "other efforts" include alleged conduct revealed for the first time today by The Telegraph. Liverpool did eventually make a legitimate approach to sign the boy from Stoke but only after having broken the rules.

How was the case exposed?

Liverpool offered to take over the payment of the boy's private school fees from Stoke but when they tried to complete his signing, the Premier League informed them that was no longer allowed following a rule change in July prohibiting the practice by clubs unless they make the same offer to all their scholars. Liverpool then withdrew their offer, leaving the boy's parents £5,000 in debt because he had already started school. The family duly pulled out of the deal and complained to the Premier League, revealing the tapping-up in the process.

They are hypocrisy wrapped in melodrama wrapped in delusion wrapped in an astonishing lack of self awareness.

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Apologies if mentioned elsewhere,.....Lawrenson on yesterdays football focus suggested Liverpool had become everyones fave second team !!
Weren’t we people’s 2nd fav team at one point... and I’ve never known of flares being fired at the Town Hall or Central Library.
 
Is there any chance we might ask Sky to recuse the spitter from attending at our place. His complete disregard of social distancing is criminal when he travels the country for his paymasters.Keep him away!
 
It is well known in football circles that Liverpool are disproportionately favoured in regard to refereeing decisions. In two cup finals (League Cup V Everton in 1984, FA Cup V Arsenal in 2001), Liverpool defenders handled shots on the goal-line, but in neither case was the offender punished nor were penalties awarded.

the league cup final against birmingham city was without a doubt bent in their favour
 
Made a bloody BIG mistake today.
I logged on to the Daily Mail web site to check the headlines on matters like the virus and relaxing lockdown plans. And as the FA Cup games had been played over the weekend I clicked on the link to 'Sport". Blow me down te headlines were all about Liverpool and the importance of their title success. I quickly logged off.
A few minutes ago my younger sister (a true blue) sent me a link to the Echo about some morons cheering as fireworks caused a fire on the historic Liver Buildings - some scousers have ZERO class.
In retrospect I am glad that we threw the Chelsea game so we avoided the mindless idiot sect turning up in Manchester causing mayhem whether or not they beat us on Thursday.
 
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