Liverpool thread 2019/20

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The self-adulation, which isn't a surprise as we know the mindset of a Liverpool fan, is reaching new heights.

No mention of the 6000 or more Shrewsbury fans that filled 1 end of Anfield to boost the crowd.

And the fact that Anfield wasn't even full. 54,500 capacity. Juts over 50,000.

Yet, behind United, they've got the most fans in the World, in Ireland, across Scandinavia, etc.

Read Liverpool.(on News Now Man City)

LIVERPOOL FANS MOCK MAN CITY’S SUPPORT AFTER FAMOUS WIN OVER SHREWSBURY
 
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BobbyBoy said:
I think you have this one wrong. Say what you want about Klopp but he's a smart man and a German. If they are anything it's practical and they learn from mistakes all the time. I have noticed from the Spurs games the difference in how they play, 3 years ago they were gassed after 70 minutes, they literally couldn't run, they would try win the game in the first 15 minutes, now they are more much pragmatic in their approach. Take the champions league final or even their win at our place a few weeks back, they know they will score at some stage and once they go 1 up they play safe, they will take a goal if it comes but not at the risk of giving up an equaliser. It's why they rarely hammer teams, it's a practical approach that allows them conserve energy. Its why the first team didn't play last night, he's thinking more FA Cup games hinders their opportunity to rest and prepare for Champions League games.
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So you say I have it wrong then write a post that basically agrees with my comment.

My point stands, and I don't agree that Klopp is 'managing' the workload for the core players.

Like I said, history shows us that Klopp's approach burns the players out so lets see what happens.
 
bewildered said:
So you say I have it wrong then write a post that basically agrees with my comment.

My point stands, and I don't agree that Klopp is 'managing' the workload for the core players.

Like I said, history shows us that Klopp's approach burns the players out so lets see what happens.
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I'm saying he has learnt from burning them out and it won't happen again, hence they are all in Magaluf.
 
BosnianBlue said:
Dortmund had regular and longer winter breaks.
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That is true but Liverpool don't have their best players cherry picked from every season by their biggest rival like Dortmund did. I assume this Liverpool squad is also a.lot bigger than the one he had in Germany.

I don't watch or pay much attention to German football but I will go back to my original point that he is smart and German. Whatever mistakes he made in Dortmund that led to their collapse won't be made again just like any mistakes he has made at Liverpool won't be made again.
 
jrb said:
The self-adulation, which isn't a surprise as we know the mindset of a Liverpool fan, is reaching new heights.

No mention of the 6000 or more Shrewsbury fans that filled 1 end of Anfield to boost the crowd.

And the fact that Anfield wasn't even full. 54,500 capacity. Juts over 50,000.

Yet, behind United, they've got the most fans in the World, in Ireland, across Scandinavia, etc.

Read Liverpool.(on News Now Man City)

LIVERPOOL FANS MOCK MAN CITY’S SUPPORT AFTER FAMOUS WIN OVER SHREWSBURY
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The twitter feed for that Read Liverpool site has 30k+ followers. I can't resist looking at the propaganda sites and just laughing.

This article particularly caught my attention:

west-ham-to-give-lifetime-bans-to-fans-who-attacked-liverpool-team-coach/

An extract from it and you couldn't really make it up:

"West Ham need to take the most severe action possible, in my opinion, ensuring lifetime bans are handed out.
There is simply no excuse for this sort of behaviour, with football supposed to be a game supporters enjoy, and not one where players find themselves in potential danger.
There is no room for such thuggery and hopefully the realisation of never being able to watch your team live again will come as a reality check.
I feel that all clubs must be as ruthless as each other in terms of the punishments dished out, ensuring the issue is eradicated for good."

The biggest hypocrites in world football......

Oh, some west ham fans threw some stuff at the Liverpool team coach and cracked a window...
 
domalino said:
We should send an u23 team to 3rd round game if we get some poor side like Shrewsbury next year, see what the difference in reaction is.
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We saw what the reaction was in 2016 when we sent a mixed squad and youth side to Chelsea in the 5th round because we were playing a Champions League match in Kiev 48 hours later. Pundits and the media accused us of disrespecting the FA Cup. Littlewoods FC let their first team jet off on holiday but they're getting a free ride in the media.
 
BobbyBoy said:
That is true but Liverpool don't have their best players cherry picked from every season by their biggest rival like Dortmund did. I assume this Liverpool squad is also a.lot bigger than the one he had in Germany.

I don't watch or pay much attention to German football but I will go back to my original point that he is smart and German. Whatever mistakes he made in Dortmund that led to their collapse won't be made again just like any mistakes he has made at Liverpool won't be made again.
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Don't know how big his squad was in Dortmund, but he is not using much of it in Liverpool. He rarely makes any changes in his team.
 
laserblue said:
We saw what the reaction was in 2016 when we sent a mixed squad and youth side to Chelsea in the 5th round because we were playing a Champions League match in Kiev 48 hours later. Pundits and the media accused us of disrespecting the FA Cup. Littlewoods FC let their first team jet off on holiday but they're getting a free ride in the media.
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Not sure what media you consume, but this has been debated constantly since Klopp announced his intentions, some supporting them, some criticising them/him.
 
Yesh said:
Not sure what media you consume, but this has been debated constantly since Klopp announced his intentions, some supporting them, some criticising them/him.
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Can you advise where he's being criticised (serious question)? Because all I've seen, heard and read is either support or stony silence. The classic is the quotes from Shearer that another poster put on BM. He slagged City off big time for disrespecting the FA Cup with the Chelsea game, despite greatly extenuating circumstances, but supports Klopp picking the kids for Shrewsbury while he and his players went on holiday.
 
Yesh said:
Not sure what media you consume, but this has been debated constantly since Klopp announced his intentions, some supporting them, some criticising them/him.
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Klopp has had very little criticism and even then mostly for the fact he couldn't even be bothered to attend the match. In fact there was an LFC propaganda story praising him for phoning the team at half time! Any other team would have been slaughtered.
 
I know this has been discussed in the Liverpool thread but I don't believe Klopp has been called out anywhere near adequately on this issue.

I did a quick search and if anything he is being praised for it. Only ex-players like Shearer and Ferdinand seem to have an issue with it. The general media narrative seems to be one of apathy or support.

These are Googel first page results for the search term 'Jurgen Klopp FA Cup'

Liverpool 1-0 Shrewsbury: Absent Jurgen Klopp 'delighted' with FA Cup win
BBC 2 hours ago

Jurgen Klopp ‘buzzing’ after youngest Liverpool team ever win in FA Cup, as James Milner dressing room role re
talkSPORT
10 hours ago

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp criticised by Alan Shearer for FA Cup no-show
The Independent
8 hours ago

Then the main results after this twitter nonsense from Milner

James Milner
(@JamesMilner)
Outstanding performance from the boys, Critch and his staff & fantastic turn out from the fans #younggunsfiring #FACup #YNWA pic.twitter.com/rFwFcWx…

Web results
www.bbc.co.uk › sport › football
Liverpool 1-0 Shrewsbury: Absent Jurgen Klopp 'delighted ...
3 hours ago - Highlights: Liverpool 1-0 Shrewsbury. Absent Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp was "delighted" as the youngest team in the club's history beat Shrewsbury to reach the FA Cup fifth round. Klopp decided to miss the fourth-round replay because it fell during the Premier League's winter break.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51380211
Positive narrative from the BBC

metro.co.uk › Sport › Football
Jose Mourinho reacts to Jurgen Klopp's decision to miss ...
1 day ago - Jose Mourinho claims Jurgen Klopp ‘does what he wants’ as the Liverpool manager has opted to miss his side’s FA Cup replay against Shrewsbury Town. ... Klopp controversially made all first-team players unavailable for the match as he stressed the importance of observing the Premier ...
https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/04/jose-mourinho-jurgen-klopp-liverpool-fa-cup-replay-12180879/
Neutral comments from Mourinho saying Klopp does whatever he wants

www.express.co.uk › Sport › Football
Are Liverpool right to snub the FA Cup or is Jurgen Klopp ...
1 day ago - Liverpool are sending their kids to play Shrewsbury in the FA Cup replay because it clashes with their slot for the winter break, and our writers ...
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1237680/Liverpool-FA-Cup-Shrewsbury-Jurgen-Klopp-Big-Debate
This one is interesting as they debate if he is right or wrong. It is about a 50/50 split which seems very odd given the pelters other teams have suffered for playing weakened teams.

www.theguardian.com › football › jan › jurgen-klopp-unrepentant-ov...
Jürgen Klopp will not attend Liverpool's FA Cup replay with ...
28 Jan 2020 - Neil Critchley will ...
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ed-liverpool-side-in-fa-cup-replay-shrewsbury
This article is genrally supportinve of Klopp putting over his side of the argument only

www.theguardian.com › football › jan › jurgen-klopp-does-not-inten...
Jürgen Klopp 'does not intend to disrespect FA Cup' with team ...
3 Jan 2020 - Jürgen Klopp, the Liverpool manager, says he will select a Liverpool team capable of coping physically with an improved Everton in the FA ...
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...lopp-does-not-intend-direspect-fa-cup-everton
Again the Guardian paying Klopp lip service

talksport.com › football › fa-cup › jurgen-klopp-jamie-ohara-liverpool-...
'Jurgen Klopp needs a break too' – Liverpool boss backed ...
29 Jan 2020 - Jamie O'Hara back Jurgen Klopp and says 'it's not fair' for the FA Cup to take away Liverpool's winter-break after months of hard work.
https://talksport.com/football/fa-c...mie-ohara-liverpool-fa-cup-replay-shrewsbury/

talksport.com › football › jurgen-klopp-liverpool-first-team-away-fa-cu...
Why Klopp is right keep his first-team away from FA Cup replay
27 Jan 2020 - Liverpool must play Shrewsbury in the FA Cup again after drawing 2-2 at New ... Why Jurgen Klopp is right to stick up two fingers and keep his ...
https://talksport.com/football/fa-c...iverpool-first-team-away-fa-cup-replay-right/
Talksport - say no more
 
mat said:
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NEvar walk alone ..
 
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Because:
1. It was during a mid season break
2. He had world club cup & euro super cup
3. He was trying to win something they haven’t won for 30 years
 
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