Liverpool thread 2019/20

[shackattack]

Stop chattin fucken shite la,everyone knows the dippers would never turn up without tickets,you'll be saying they were pissed too next....

taken from one of their forums -

Travelling up from London, we went for a few beers at lunchtime before joining the massive queue that was building up at the away end. The crush was so great that sheer weight of numbers led to the gates collapsing. There was no vandalism, the weight of bodies just pushed the gates open. I lifted my feet and was swept in by the crowd. The official attendance was 53,000 I think, but there were many, many more in the ground. Poor old Wolves must have lost a packet as I doubt if anyone behind our goal paid to get in.

On the train back to London there were so many Liverpool fans that it was like one of the old football specials out of Lime Street. I think it was the first time I realised our nationwide appeal, as many of those on board were changing trains further down the line to go to such unlikely places as Wiltshire etc.

It really was one of the most memorable away games ever

 

[Greggery Peccary]

I’m happy to answer. No. City have pissed me off on a number of occasions over the years.

In the Division 2 season, they allowed me to go to every home game and numerous aways without the need for a membership. Once we qualified for Wembley, you couldn’t get a ticket without a membership. I had to rely on a mate to get me one.

There was an issue with selling loyalty the other year as well.

I also don’t have a clue why we don’t tell our kit makers to fuck off more often.

These things barely compare with deciding to furlough staff out of pure greed, running down the local community deliberately out of pure greed, defending racism, blaming others for their own fans actions and encouraging an attack on another team’s coach.

Now about those 8 Liverpool fans at Heysel...

I’ll explain what I meant. I’ve had any number of accusations thrown at me about my clubs’ decisions or actions, most of which I’ve publicly agreed with. But I’ve noticed that more often than not that the process is not reciprocated if anything is brought up around your own club. That’s fine and I don’t expect to get any rational debate on it, that’s been made clear. So I asked that poster, not of out of any previous spite, just the one who’d posted last, if he felt that City’s behaviour on and off the pitch had always been beyond reproach. If he’d said a blanket no, that’s one thing. If he’d said Yes with examples, that’s a totally different thing and says an awful lot more. I deliberately worded it as neutrally as possible to avoid any potential barbs. There was no intention to have a row, far from it.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

It was really touching that Heysel tribute they gave the other day.

Oh wait....

Class is what class does.

That club are an absolute shit stain on football.

 

[Greggery Peccary]

This thread is not about our past and current owners and board we have the main forum for that and you will find plenty of threads ripping some our clubs perceived mistakes and failures you whopper, this thread is about your club and so you brought up the eight dead Liverpool supporters at that shocker of a night (yes I am old enough to have watched and actually root for your lads that night) now answer the question asked by many how you come to that conclusion or in my mind you should be fucked off for being a Wummer or a low rent version of Ronnie Irani.

I’ll hold my hands up - I got that wrong. Would have been more than happy to discuss it the other day but the amount of people who piled in didn’t lend to a constructive argument.
And if you read above, you’ll see that the point of the post wasn’t a dig at your owners, past or present.

 

[cheekybids]

Christ one of them even looks like a candle!

The biggest candle ever as it means more.

 

[cheekybids]

I’ll hold my hands up - I got that wrong. Would have been more than happy to discuss it the other day but the amount of people who piled in didn’t lend to a constructive argument.
And if you read above, you’ll see that the point of the post wasn’t a dig at your owners, past or present.

you were piled on cos it was a distasteful comment typical of that day always looking for a caveat, choose any of;

-Rome
-Juventus
-NF
-Chelsea
-Ground
-Segregation
& adding to the dilution of facts 8 Liverpool fans died.

If your club had really honoured the dead & made amends you’d know this to be a horrendous slur.

 

[KloppiteE]

It was really touching that Heysel tribute they gave the other day.

Oh wait....

Class is what class does.

That club are an absolute shit stain on football.

They marked it across all social media channels and on the club website/ lowered flags at all facilities and paid respects at the memorial. As they do every year-

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/an...s-35th-anniversary-of-heysel-stadium-disaster

If you're going to devolve into schoolyard name-calling at least try be accurate in what you're abusing ay?

 

[waspish]

They marked it across all social media channels and on the club website/ lowered flags at all facilities and paid respects at the memorial. As they do every year-

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/an...s-35th-anniversary-of-heysel-stadium-disaster

If you're going to devolve into schoolyard name-calling at least try be accurate in what you're abusing ay?

They did and that’s the first time I’ve ever seen that by Liverpool.

 

[KloppiteE]

Heartbreaking watching Richie Mawson's wife and son on BBC breakfast a little earlier.

For those that don't know, he contracted CV the away game in Madrid, fell seriously ill a fortnight after, and sadly passed quickly after that. At 70.

It really does make you think how lucky you are personally after those two games.

I mean the first game the virus was in its infancy and there was no talk from Governments of the risks/ warnings of not travelling. But they obviously knew of the inherent danger when friends who went via Bergamo, were stopped on the way back through there and had their temperature taken, both on landing and departing, without being told why. To then be told they had to SI on returning to Britain. We flew directly in and out from Stansted and never had that but still, after spending 3 days in the Spanish capital, as City did the week after, you think 'there but for the grace of God' yanno?'

And then to have the absolutely absurd situation of the return game going ahead, or at the very least, not being played behind closed doors, when Madrid at that time had seen a massive spike in cases, was negligence in the extreme from the authorities. The manager voiced his concerns. But as he noted, he's no different to the rest of us and is no expert so we can only go with what they say. Supporters groups raised it numerous times with the club of fans fears to allow 3,000 fans from Madrid, now the epicentre of CV in Spain, into the North West. (This didn't just affect L'pool but Manchester too given routes of travel.). But ultimately, the advice from both our and the Spanish Government, and UEFA, was that it was still not that high of a risk and safe to hold the fixture. So what do you do? The club followed those guidelines and you, as a fan, as we all have through this horrible pandemic, put yourselves in the hands of those 'experts' that are advising you everything's still ok to attend and trust they know what they're telling you backed by medical science.

And the result was a massive spike in infections and lost life in the area following that scandalous decision from those in charge trusted with public safety.

I'm just relieved and thankful they finally saw sense after and stopped another 3,000 from Madrid travelling back into the North West the following week or else Manchester would have doubtless suffered as well.

God rest Mr Mawson. (And anyone else come to that lost to this horrific killer that's irrevocably changed our lives forever.).

*Edit* As has been pointed out, he caught it and fell ill after the home game.

Apologies for the inadvertent mistake between games in typing that out this AM.

 

[KloppiteE]

They did and that’s the first time I’ve ever seen that by Liverpool.

They mark it every year mate in that way at the memorial.

 

[Blue Mist]

Another Government inquiry is being demanded, another scouser on the tele demanding it, do they ever stop ? I have every sympathy with his wife over her loss but I have put on here many times who, if anyone, was to blame.... but it is never their fault. Not the mayors, FSG, the police, Klopp, nope it is Boris Johnsons fault because everyone in Liverpool does everything he says. Yeh right.

 

[blue corby]

Everyone who attended the game at Anfield had a choice to make go or stay at home those that went knew what the dangers of going were unless they were to young to make a decision then whoever took them were responsible. , City were due to play Arsenal and we as a family decided we would not attend before it was called off due to the obvious danger . Our choice not anyone else’s

 

[waspish]

They mark it every year mate in that way at the memorial.

Do they!? Why was it the first time I’ve seen it on twitter?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Everyone who attended the game at Anfield had a choice to make go or stay at home those that went knew what the dangers of going were unless they were to young to make a decision then whoever took them were responsible. , City were due to play Arsenal and we as a family decided we would not attend before it was called off due to the obvious danger . Our choice not anyone else’s

I was glad it was called off, would I have eventually gone to the Arse game? Similar to Istanbul in 2009 if we'd got there...who knows.

I had already decided in the days after the postponed game I wasn't going to go to the Burnley game but, the Arsenal game I'll never know.

 

[Ric]

Another Government inquiry is being demanded, another scouser on the tele demanding it, do they ever stop ? I have every sympathy with his wife over her loss but I have put on here many times who, if anyone, was to blame.... but it is never their fault. Not the mayors, FSG, the police, Klopp, nope it is Boris Johnsons fault because everyone in Liverpool does everything he says. Yeh right.

It was a disgrace that the game went instead, but who ultimately is responsible for that decision is unclear. I guess an enquiry would at least ascertain that?

 

[KloppiteE]

Everyone who attended the game at Anfield had a choice to make go or stay at home those that went knew what the dangers of going were unless they were to young to make a decision then whoever took them were responsible. , City were due to play Arsenal and we as a family decided we would not attend before it was called off due to the obvious danger . Our choice not anyone else’s

Undoubtedly. It's a personal judgement call but it's understandable that many would choose to attend when all the 'expert' advice was telling them it was safe to do so at that time.

But it still doesn't negate the two respective Governments and UEFA's decision to see fit to allow both the game to go-ahead and 3,000 to travel into the North West. The majority from Spain's epicentre of the pandemic. That's terrible negligence from all concerned.

Mercifully they stopped another 3,000 from Madrid from returning to the area a week later for your return so we can at least be thankful for that.

You and yours stay safe mate as we continue to fight this horror.

 

[bakerdave76]

 

[KloppiteE]

Do they!? Why was it the first time I’ve seen it on twitter?

Yes bud. There's links to the last 3 or 4 years in the link to this year I posted for example.

I can justifiably criticise them for a lot of, IMHO, their lax response to really trying to mend bridges with the people of Turin over the years. (There's always been good contact between the two clubs but they could have done a lot more for me.).

But not respectfully marking the anniversary every year isn't one of them.

 

[cheekybids]

It was a disgrace that the game went instead, but who ultimately is responsible for that decision is unclear. I guess an enquiry would at least ascertain that?

VAR?

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Heartbreaking watching Richie Mawson's wife and son on BBC breakfast a little earlier.

For those that don't know, he contracted CV the away game in Madrid, fell seriously ill a fortnight after, and sadly passed quickly after that. At 70.

It really does make you think how lucky you are personally after those two games.

I mean the first game the virus was in its infancy and there was no talk from Governments of the risks/ warnings of not travelling. But they obviously knew of the inherent danger when friends who went via Bergamo, were stopped on the way back through there and had their temperature taken, both on landing and departing, without being told why. To then be told they had to SI on returning to Britain. We flew directly in and out from Stansted and never had that but still, after spending 3 days in the Spanish capital, as City did the week after, you think 'there but for the grace of God' yanno?'

And then to have the absolutely absurd situation of the return game going ahead, or at the very least, not being played behind closed doors, when Madrid at that time had seen a massive spike in cases, was negligence in the extreme from the authorities. The manager voiced his concerns. But as he noted, he's no different to the rest of us and is no expert so we can only go with what they say. Supporters groups raised it numerous times with the club of fans fears to allow 3,000 fans from Madrid, now the epicentre of CV in Spain, into the North West. (This didn't just affect L'pool but Manchester too given routes of travel.). But ultimately, the advice from both our and the Spanish Government, and UEFA, was that it was still not that high of a risk and safe to hold the fixture. So what do you do? The club followed those guidelines and you, as a fan, as we all have through this horrible pandemic, put yourselves in the hands of those 'experts' that are advising you everything's still ok to attend and trust they know what they're telling you backed by medical science.

And the result was a massive spike in infections and lost life in the area following that scandalous decision from those in charge trusted with public safety.

I'm just relieved and thankful they finally saw sense after and stopped another 3,000 from Madrid travelling back into the North West the following week or else Manchester would have doubtless suffered as well.

God rest Mr Mawson. (And anyone else come to that lost to this horrific killer that's irrevocably changed our lives forever.).

Let's get the facts straight shall we but first let me extend my sympathy to the family.

Firstly he didn't catch Covid after the away leg. He caught it two weeks after attending the home game. The family said he was fit and healthy, went to gym twice a week and sometime picked up his grandaughter from school. You don't think going to a gym twice a week might have been where he contracted the illness? Liverpool as a club were desperate to get the game played, I didn't hear Klopp in his presser demanding for the game to be postponed, I didn't hear the owners of the club demanding from UEFA that the game be postponed. All I heard was how Atletico would crumble under the lights etc. And how ironic that the wife talks about going with whatever the government tells you to do, that must be a first in Merseyside. What will an enquiry tell you? That UEFA didn't want the game cancelled as there was too much money at stake, that the club were happy to proceed, that the late Mr Mawson could have contracted the illness from any number of places?