Liverpool thread 2020/21

[Blueboy73]

Thanks, bud. Amazing how City's dealings and business is in our faces yet Liverpool's is always kept quiet.

No worries mate.
It's the same with the Rags and Tarquins amongst others and their previous investment but nothing ever gets mentioned.
I suspect most Redshirts followers don't know their own history.

 

[jrb]

Bingo was back to his fist clenching, fist pumping best, on the touchline last night.

 

[TravisBickle]

The Moores family basically bank rolled them out of the 2nd Division using money generated from Littlewoods Pools which was the only legalised form of gambling at the time ( for "Dirty Oil Money" read "Dirty Gambling Money")
They signed players like Ian St John for fees and paid wages that many established 1st Division clubs couldn't afford at the time.
Some older posters will know more but I'm sure they signed some other Scottish players and were referred to as The McMercenaries.
In their past history they were formed by a local business man ( John Houlding) who became their Tory Lord Mayor (so much for them being a big socialist club eh) who gave them a free stadium and bought them a whole team of top class players to enable them to win the league.
After he died, they faded into obscurity for years (with the exception of 1 league title just after the war) and were wallowing in Division 2 and didn't emerge as a force until they were bankrolled by The Moores family.

When Shankly first arrived at the club and saw the run down stadium/conditions at the club he thought he made a huge mistake leaving Huddersfield for them.

 

[Blueboy73]

When Shankly first arrived at the club and saw the run down stadium/conditions at the club he thought he made a huge mistake leaving Huddersfield for them.

Didn't he get them to install drainage on the pitch as they had none?
I also seem to remember the cultists banning his autobiography from the club shop after he had the temerity to thank the Moores family for their financial support.

 

[Cons Dad]

Didn't he get them to install drainage on the pitch as they had none?
I also seem to remember the cultists banning his autobiography from the club shop after he had the temerity to thank the Moores family for their financial support.

Your right, found this to be a good read on the state of the club when he first went there

Bill Shankly - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mike Cledford]

The Moores family basically bank rolled them out of the 2nd Division using money generated from Littlewoods Pools which was the only legalised form of gambling at the time ( for "Dirty Oil Money" read "Dirty Gambling Money")
They signed players like Ian St John for fees and paid wages that many established 1st Division clubs couldn't afford at the time.
Some older posters will know more but I'm sure they signed some other Scottish players and were referred to as The McMercenaries.
In their past history they were formed by a local business man ( John Houlding) who became their Tory Lord Mayor (so much for them being a big socialist club eh) who gave them a free stadium and bought them a whole team of top class players to enable them to win the league.
After he died, they faded into obscurity for years (with the exception of 1 league title just after the war) and were wallowing in Division 2 and didn't emerge as a force until they were bankrolled by The Moores family.

Thanks for that BB you filled in a few gaps in my knowledge. I dont remember much of them
in the 50s. In those days Blackburn, Burnley, Preston Bolton, Blackpool and of course the rags were the teams we knew best because they were local and we were allowed to go to away matches. They were in the second division and of little interest. Then in 62 out of blue they won the league and got carried along with the Merseysound, the Swinging 60s and they had a silly little song which fortunately l can't remember.And they went from strength to strength but in no way dominant.
It was well known that they and Everton were being bankrolled with pools monies although Everton were nicknamed the Bank of England club. They had a member of the Moores family on their board.
There is a lot of their history they bury and create a smokescreen with new 'istree.
History is one of those words which taken on a new mea ing for football fans. I always look at ours from the time we were founded. Liverpool and others treat history in a similar manner to saying the history of this country started in the 1700s and the Industrial Revolution.

 

[CBD]

Red shite history is Heysel hacking and bus wrecking-not to mention Stanley knives etc

 

[Blueboy73]

Thanks for that BB you filled in a few gaps in my knowledge. I dont remember much of them
in the 50s. In those days Blackburn, Burnley, Preston Bolton, Blackpool and of course the rags were the teams we knew best because they were local and we were allowed to go to away matches. They were in the second division and of little interest. Then in 62 out of blue they won the league and got carried along with the Merseysound, the Swinging 60s and they had a silly little song which fortunately l can't remember.And they went from strength to strength but in no way dominant.
It was well known that they and Everton were being bankrolled with pools monies although Everton were nicknamed the Bank of England club. They had a member of the Moores family on their board.
There is a lot of their history they bury and create a smokescreen with new 'istree.
History is one of those words which taken on a new mea ing for football fans. I always look at ours from the time we were founded. Liverpool and others treat history in a similar manner to saying the history of this country started in the 1700s and the Industrial Revolution.

Great post Mike,
I pulled a Dipper (with a West Country accent) on Wembley Way at the 2019 CS when he started banging on about istree and I tied him in knots.
They're very good at airbrushing out events like Hysel and putting their own spin on things but it's easy enough to shut them up when you stick to the facts.
Fulham for example are the oldest professional club in London but your average plastic would say they've got no history because they haven't won any major trophies which is clearly bollocks.
Every club has history and I enjoy talking about it with fans of other clubs, just as I enjoy taking plastic Rags and Dippers apart when they demonstrate a lack of knowledge about their own.

 

[I'm Blue]

The Moores family basically bank rolled them out of the 2nd Division using money generated from Littlewoods Pools which was the only legalised form of gambling at the time ( for "Dirty Oil Money" read "Dirty Gambling Money")
They signed players like Ian St John for fees and paid wages that many established 1st Division clubs couldn't afford at the time.
Some older posters will know more but I'm sure they signed some other Scottish players and were referred to as The McMercenaries.
In their past history they were formed by a local business man ( John Houlding) who became their Tory Lord Mayor (so much for them being a big socialist club eh) who gave them a free stadium and bought them a whole team of top class players to enable them to win the league.
After he died, they faded into obscurity for years (with the exception of 1 league title just after the war) and were wallowing in Division 2 and didn't emerge as a force until they were bankrolled by The Moores family.

Haha.
Had a scouser rather upset on Facebook when I mentioned their Littlewoods money.
He got rather abusive rather quickly : )
He was spouting off about outside investment, so I mentioned the Littlewoods money.
Worked like a charm.
He then changed to us being cheats cos we failed ffp, I pointed out so had they, once but it would have been twice if it wasn’t for the money they offset for their imaginary stadium.
He quickly pointed out that they never built a new stadium and I was an idiot, why would they spend money on a new stadium when they were staying where they were? Haha and I’m the idiot.
I told him to google it and come back to me.
He did and come back with “well you’re still cheats”
Hahahaha candle fumes must affect their brains.

 

[Blueboy73]

Haha.
Had a scouser rather upset on Facebook when I mentioned their Littlewoods money.
He got rather abusive rather quickly : )
He was spouting off about outside investment, so I mentioned the Littlewoods money.
Worked like a charm.
He then changed to us being cheats cos we failed ffp, I pointed out so had they, once but it would have been twice if it wasn’t for the money they offset for their imaginary stadium.
He quickly pointed out that they never built a new stadium and I was an idiot, why would they spend money on a new stadium when they were staying where they were? Haha and I’m the idiot.
I told him to google it and come back to me.
He did and come back with “well you’re still cheats”
Hahahaha candle fumes must affect their brains.

They really are on another level when it comes to lack of knowledge, denial and delusion.
It's a good job you didn't mention Heysel or he would be blaming everyone from the Belgian Police, UEFA, Juventus fans, the venue, the Belgian FA, Chelsea fans, The Tories etc. basically everyone but themselves.

Perhaps you should mention the loan their previous owners took out from RBS, who were government owned at the time, which saved them from going into administration.
If you ask him if this means they were state funded ( which technically they were) his head will probably explode.