Both were avoidable tragedies but (imo) with very different root causes. One their supporters demonstrably caused, the other they didn’t. The ticketless fans line is as much of a red herring as the crumbling stadium one. Lies propagated by the people that caused each tragedy to deflect blame.
They should own their mistakes, to the same extent as they want others to own theirs.
Spot on. I wasnt there but as a Liverpool supporter I have to accept what happened. Irrespective of anything else around the circumstances and situation, the fact is that without there being people/Liverpool supporters present, charging fences and instilling fear in those across the chicken wire...then it wouldnt have happened. Remove the people, it simply doesnt happen.
It will always be there and can never be removed, not should it.
That said, I find it sad, that it gets ramped up into such a polarising issue these days, or perhaps every year at this time. I guess in part that once again its the media, or social media that fans the flames. You get those on (my) side who fail to acknowledge and "own it" who by their actions incite the hostility and astonishment from other clubs fans.
the only thing I do find odd or perhaps a little hypocritical is the complete blame for the English ban, or perhaps the failure to "own it" by some fans (and yes I appreciate that this will be a small proportion amongst those who were adversely impacted). Yes Heysel was the straw that broke UEFAs back and it was the darkest day for Liverpool and English football, but it was a culmination of fans/hooligans and culture of many clubs for years before. It was the few from many clubs that chipped away at UEFAs patience but those supporters/thugs/idiots on that day that broke the patience.
...but then thats just my view.
As for any intended celebration on 29th (just for the cup wins I suspect it will be) I agree it is poor "optics". 1 day after the final or 1 week after the final? In order to show a degree of empathy and respect then no reason why the following weekend could not be used, especially as there may be many a fan coming back from Paris who doesnt make it back in time.
...and so on to today...I would say good luck, but i wouldnt mean it.
personally, Im not holding out much hope, but then you never know...after all, at 93.10 I think most of you lot just had hope!