Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

[ganganvince]

Is that a ferrari or whatever cars he's driving atm or something more dressy upy. Can I wear the pointy hat, though?

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Tbf growing up in South manny we defo identified with being manc more than being English! I'm shocked thst this is such an issue on here as I know loads of mancs thst would say the same thing albeit for different reasons

I think there is some truth in this. Certainly in the 70s and 80s, apart from the biggest matches, most of the City (and United) fans I knew in Withington did not really have much enthusiasm for watching England matches. The England team and fanbase was perceived to be a Southern thing and associated with Far Right politics. It was the height of the hooligan era and things have changed a lot since then. My Mancunian identity is as important to me as my nationality.
That said Tony Evans is a total wanker and he is lying to describe Liverpool as "an inclusive" city. I worked and lived there for seven years in the 80s/90s. At that time it was the most racist city I have ever spent time in. It was very insular with a lot of hostility to outsiders, especially if they were a different colour to most of the locals. Not many people from L8 ventured into the city centre and if they did they would be stopped from using certain venues.

 

[feelymcfeel]

I've never heard one person say that in my whole life as a Mancunian.

Also, I've never heard a Mancunian call Manchester 'manny.'

 

[mexico1970]

Most people I know who are English identify as English, why wouldn't they?

 

[johnevans]

Many of us, if not most of us, have at least some non-English ancestors. It isn't remotely unique to Scouserpool, or even unusual.

Consider my maternal granddad. I never knew him, but according to reports he was about a gnat's dick away from being an Orangeman, at least in his attitudes. Yet I have found he was descended from two Irish Catholics who were married in a Catholic church in Dublin in the early 1800s. Which is pretty Irish by any standards.

I myself am undoubtedly English (albeit northern English) by culture, but I have an absolute shit ton of Welsh and Irish blood and, going further back some Scottish. (To say nothing of some very posh Europeans.) But again, this is nothing special. I suspect 99% of you out there would say the same if you checked out your ancestry.

The scousers just get off on pretending they are something special and unique. It's just another form of pernicious nationalism, like the Nazis claiming to be herrenvolk. Nothing more, nothing less, and it's fucking pathetic. Especially when their 'culture' comprises mostly nicking hub caps and throwing missiles at coaches.

I agree completely with your excellent post.

During the run-up to the Referendum in 2016 I had a conversation with a Tory voting friend of mine who couldn't wait for us to get out of Europe. I gave him a variety of detailed examples of industries which would be likely to suffer from such a result (from agriculture to finance to hospitality/tourism etc) and rather frustrated him to the point at which he asked 'So what are you then? English or what?'

My response was simply 'I was born in Hulme so I'm a Hulmeian. Which is in Manchester, which makes me a Manc. Which is in Lancashire, which makes me Lancastrian. Which is in England, which makes me English. Which is in GB/the UK, which makes me British. Which is part of Europe, which makes me European. Which is part of this rock we're all rushing through Space-Time on, which makes me a member of the human race. I'm all of those things and I believe we need to pull together rather than be separate, which is why I will vote once again for Europe, like I did in 1975'

The stuff coming from Tony Evans and his sort is utter garbage and needs calling out every time it rears its ugly head. And like others have said here, heaven forbid if anyone should try to encourage us to be 'Mancs' alone rather than anything else.. (..what's that you say? 'The Republik of Mancunia - Old Trafford Division'..?!)

 

[Vienna_70]

And tony evans who writes for the independant and has done for the anfield wrap is off again










Don't they get tired of this scouse not english bollocks

Evans obviously doesn’t.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Most people I know who are English identify as English, why wouldn't they?

Tony can identify as anything he likes and can change it daily if he wants. What he can’t change is the country in which he was born. Being born in England makes you primarily English.

Does it say you’re Scouse on your birth certificate Tony? Thought not.

It would seem Tony also identifies as an Idiot.

 

[urban genie]

I've never heard one person say that in my whole life as a Mancunian.

What Manny?

Me neither, a horrible term that is creeping into local language.


Also if anything I would always say english and lancastrian alongside mancunian, never thinking any of them were a seperate thing

 

[jimharri]

Just read that Tony Evans waffle. God, they're an odd bunch.

 

[1961_vintage]

I am seriously looking at one of them prepaid £1000 jobs. They turn up in a tranny van take your corpse and post ashes back all done no fuss.

Blimey my vets do it for a lot cheaper than that.