Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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[chesterbells]

I've got no idea. Just repeating something I read. But presumably it's about how much a team is using it. When I was a kid, caffeine was banned above a certain level, so there was presumably a reason (and a reason that the ban was lifted that definitely didn't coincide with Red Bull sponsoring loads of sports).

For the record, obviously Liverpool wouldn't be the only team using legal performance supplements. The backroom staff wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't.

Wasn’t there a story back in the day about old vinegar face being furious with Cole, who at an England get together spilled the beans to everyone else about arsenal players being dosed up on creatine? Like you say, if it’s legal it will be common practice - a bit like painkillers in cycling no doubt - tramadol anyone?

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Wasn’t there a story back in the day about old vinegar face being furious with Cole, who at an England get together spilled the beans to everyone else about arsenal players being dosed up on creatine? Like you say, if it’s legal it will be common practice - a bit like painkillers in cycling no doubt - tramadol anyone?

The way the Dippers have started the season maybe Clubshopklopp has got the meds mixed up and they have been taking Mogadon

 

[East Level 2]

Only natural for a club created by a Tory Mason who had just evicted the local catholic team.

They are as ignorant about their own history as they are about our history.

 

[Colthekid]

It has been. Doesn’t make for very satisfactory listening though, to put it mildly.

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less: Behind the Stats, Debunking the Liverpool FC Conspiracy Theory

We debunk spurious rumours that Liverpool FC use asthma medication to enhance performance

www.bbc.co.uk

To be fair, the claim was made on some obscure blog, and I've never seen any source that doesn't go back to that original unsubstantiated claim. The more interesting one was the claim of caffeine usage, which isn't against the rules, but results in a cycle of on and off years.

Having said that, that BBC thing is just so desperate to defend Liverpool that it makes you think it might be true. My favourite bit was "they'd also get picked up in an anti-doping test." Because we all know how frequent they are in football, right? Also, if the sort of small doses that asthma sufferers usually take in a standard inhaler wouldn't cause any sort of improvement in performance in non-asthmatic individuals, why do they need an therapeutic use exemption at all?

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Shit start for the Scouse - couldn't be happier.

But don't count them out - they've got talent aplenty - they'll finish 2nd almost certainly.

 

[Manc in London]

Wasn’t there a story back in the day about old vinegar face being furious with Cole, who at an England get together spilled the beans to everyone else about arsenal players being dosed up on creatine? Like you say, if it’s legal it will be common practice - a bit like painkillers in cycling no doubt - tramadol anyone?

I think Tramadol is banned by the UCI and not WADA. Thus, they do not ban users and instead apply post race disqualification. I think that is what happened to Quintana.

I'd be stunned if dodgy supplements were not used in football. Far too much money for it not to.

 

[chesterbells]

I think Tramadol is banned by the UCI and not WADA. Thus, they do not ban users and instead apply post race disqualification. I think that is what happened to Quintana.

I'd be stunned if dodgy supplements were not used in football. Far too much money for it not to.

Agreed pal.
I’m a regular listener to this podcast series & i’d highly recommend it to anyone interested in the use of drugs in sport. This particular episode starts with a discussion re the tramadol issue prompted by the Quintana case:

 

[waspish]

It only 3 games Liverpool win the rags win we draw it 1 point or 2 in it that’s why you look at the table around 10 games

 

[Manc in London]

Agreed pal.
I’m a regular listener to this podcast series & i’d highly recommend it to anyone interested in the use of drugs in sport. This particular episode starts with a discussion re the tramadol issue prompted by the Quintana case:

Thanks, mate. Will try and have a listen later (while on my stationary bike :) )