Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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Seems a kindred spirit is developing between ourselves and Everton.
We have many things in common.
We both play second fiddle to our over hyped neighbours, we both play in different shades of blue, and we're both the true clubs of our City's.
When Everton move into their new stadium I reckon they will start to take off and become the dominant force in their City, just like we've done to the Salford/ Trafford/ Manc raggies.
All's good, as long as they still finish behind us of course.
 
FightLikeAGirl said:
Jeez, I had no idea you'd lost friends. I'm so sorry.

Another thing they seem to forget is that one of the founding members of the HJC is an Evertonian. Ste Kelly. Like I said, all the Everton fans I know, me included, support the campaign and always have, and the club has been respectful - I'll always love Martinez for that speech - but not gonna lie, the way some Liverpool fans behave towards us, I wonder what the point is. Still, you've got to see the bigger picture. If the draw had been different, 97 Everton fans would have died. And when a small minority of fuckwit Everton fans do make Hillsborough jokes on social media, they'll get a bollocking from other Everton fans.

The derby scares the shit out of me. I'm not sure which fixture is worse, ours or Anfield but there's a reason why we sell very few away tickets for Anfield. Not that our fans are angels, but their fans fucking scare me. Especially with the way they treated Pickford.
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That's a heck of an eye opener, are you saying Everton fans are starting to sack off the derby. Are thungs that out of control with your neighbours fans ?Again if that's the case looks like another thing swept under the carpet and hushed up.
 
shackattack said:
We was at Villa Park the same day and though we won it was hard to concentrate and celebrate even. I don't know Ste Kelly personally but his story about his brother Michael is heartbreaking. People forget as well that the families themselves did not always get on re direction of the campaign hence the different support groups.
Personally I always had a lot more time for John Glover and Anne Williams than the other group though am not belittling any of the families in any way.
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Yeah, my uncle was at the Villa game - I think I mentioned this earlier - and when he came out he saw people standing around a car listening to the radio and looking really upset, and there was a news item about people dying in the crowd at the Liverpool game. I think the total was in the thirties by then and it just kept going up. Luckily he didn't know anyone who was at Hillsborough but the Forest friend I mentioned earlier, his dad and gran were at Hillsborough and his gran never went another football match after that. I don't blame her, seeing a match turn into a massacre would have traumatised a lot of people.

It wouldn't surprise me if Everton fans were more cautious about going to Anfield these days. The atmosphere is apparently much nastier than it used to be. I wouldn't even go the Goodison derby tbh.
 
fitzy blue said:
Seems a kindred spirit is developing between ourselves and Everton.
We have many things in common.
We both play second fiddle to our over hyped neighbours, we both play in different shades of blue, and we're both the true clubs of our City's.
When Everton move into their new stadium I reckon they will start to take off and become the dominant force in their City, just like we've done to the Salford/ Trafford/ Manc raggies.
All's good, as long as they still finish behind us of course.
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This is why I like Spurs. They have obnoxious red rivals who gloat about their trophy hoard all the time.
 
The "always the victims chant" has and is sung by most if not all fans of other clubs and has been for years.
why is it only now they've started whinging about it?
Are the feral rats trying to deflect something ive missed?

One thing ive noticed is ive not seen or heard one single liverpool fan answer a single question as to why they
do the things they are accused of.

city fans sung this utd fans sung that then we tell em straight why we do.
why the queens death chant? silence
why the ira chant? silence etc etc.

I think they have realised no matter what they will always be hated by all football fans.
I do kinda feel a bit sorry for the genuine fans as i know quite a few who privately hate their
reputation and are embarrassed by their own fans.
 
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roach3 said:
The "always the victims chant" has and is sung by most if not all fans of other clubs and has been for years.
why is it only now they've started whinging about it?
Are the feral rats trying to deflect something ive missed?

One thing ive noticed is ive not seen or heard one single liverpool fan answer a single question as to why they
do the things they are accused of.

city fans sung this utd fans sung that then we tell em straight why we do.
why the queens death chant? silence
why the ira chant? silence etc etc.

I think they have realised no matter what they will always be hated by all football fans.
I do kinda feel a bit sorry for the genuine fans as i know quite a few who privately hate their
reputation and are embarrassed by their own fans.
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And they deflect that by saying ”but they said this, they said that”
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Excellent post but I've highlighted this bit. Had a Liverpool fan tell me earlier that they're quite justified in booing the National Anthem due to the Thatcher government's view about Liverpool and leaving it to undergo a 'managed decline'.

But that was 40 years ago and this booing only seems to have started properly relatively recently. Liverpool is a much more vibrant city these days; they have little to complain about compared to 1981, when they did have a good case for being angry. So again, they're focusing on history and ignoring the present.

But when this Liverpool fan talked about "...the people of the city..." being angry about this historic event, I pointed out that Everton fans, who are probably more representative of "the people of the city" don't seem to feel the need to boo the anthem, or otherwise disrespect the Royal Family (who weren't the ones suggesting it was starved of public investment anyway).

I also pointed out that, as an example, the mining communities of Yorkshire and the North East were far more badly impacted by Thatcher's 'managed decline' of the mining industry and have a far better case than Liverpool for a lingering resentment of the establishment.Yet they don't boo the anthem. I had to go to Middlesbrough about 6 months ago and compared to that place, Liverpool's a paradise.

Yet another example of their seemingly endless need to be seen as the victim.
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FSG were also partial to a managed decline around Anfield so they could extend the stadia cheaply.
 


This was cowardly. With an eye on his next heart-to-heart with Anfield Rap Atkinson, Mooney utterly, shamefully, shits on the Blue support, from the comfort of his settee, by swallowing, like mother’s milk, the mainstream account of what the away support was chanting. He does the Blue Moon podcast, on this site. Differences of opinions are allowed. David, you got this so wrong, Blue.
 
DenisHasDoneIt said:


This was cowardly. With an eye on his next heart-to-heart with Anfield Rap Atkinson, Mooney utterly, shamefully, shits on the Blue support, from the comfort of his settee, by swallowing, like mother’s milk, the mainstream account of what the away support was chanting. He does the Blue Moon podcast, on this site. Differences of opinions are allowed. David, you got this so wrong, Blue.
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Stopped listening to the blue moon podcast after they slaughtered Bernardo. With friends like these…….

Career blues! It seems our journalistic blues will sell their soul for more exciting projects & it makes you wonder if journalists are given 2 bits of career advice when they start.

Never upset Liverpool

Blame City
 
DenisHasDoneIt said:


This was cowardly. With an eye on his next heart-to-heart with Anfield Rap Atkinson, Mooney utterly, shamefully, shits on the Blue support, from the comfort of his settee, by swallowing, like mother’s milk, the mainstream account of what the away support was chanting. He does the Blue Moon podcast, on this site. Differences of opinions are allowed. David, you got this so wrong, Blue.
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And if you’re reading, David, I know you put your name to your opinions, and I don’t to mine, so fair play to you. But City fans were not singing about Hillsborough, and the deaths of Liverpool fans that day, but about the hypocrisy of Mass Deaths They Won’t Refer To vs. Mass Deaths They Won’t Stop Referring To. And the IRA songs. And the joy at the death of the Queen. (Cue Sam Lee: “Probably some right-wing monarchist crew” - Jesus wept). And the coach-bricking. And the scousewashing, in which you played your part. And you know it, David.
 
DenisHasDoneIt said:
And if you’re reading, David, I know you put your name to your opinions, and I don’t to mine, so fair play to you. But City fans were not singing about Hillsborough, and the deaths of Liverpool fans that day, but about the hypocrisy of Mass Deaths They Won’t Refer To vs. Mass Deaths They Won’t Stop Referring To. And the IRA songs. And the joy at the death of the Queen. (Cue Sam Lee: “Probably some right-wing monarchist crew” - Jesus wept). And the coach-bricking. And the scousewashing, in which you played your part. And you know it, David.
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Sam Lee is a shit ****!
 
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