Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

[salford blue 62]

The elephant in the room that everyone ignores is it was dippers with fake tickets taking the seats from dippers who bought legally.

That caused the hold up.

Why arent the genuine dippers letting everyone know that fellow dippers with fake tickets cost them their seats ?

We have all seen the pictures on social media of bundles of fake dipper tickets. We have seen the dippers on social media climbing over the fences.
We have seen on social media dippers bragging about jibbing in.
We have all seen on social media the dippers by the fence waving their fake tickets thinking they are real.

If this was City I would be fucking furious if another City fan with a fake ticket had taken my seat. Yet dippers seem happy to blame everyone else except their own fans. The fans that caused the problems.

Their fans have always caused the problems.

 

[Kippax77]

Would any of this be happening if they had actually won the Final, hence a treble instead of a scrappy domestic double won on penalties?

 

[mexico1970]

Would any of this be happening if they had actually won the Final, hence a treble instead of a scrappy domestic double won on penalties?

We would have had tears of joy instead of tears caused by gas.

 

[Bluewonder]

It’s never their fault. (Rob Draper in the Daily Liverpool)

That’s right Rob, social media wasn’t awash with fake Liverpool tickets being advertised for sale, and for sale in Paris before the match to Liverpool fans, was it?

The problems also meant some stewards allowed hundreds of fans to crawl in beneath turnstiles, because they judged their tickets legitimate. Though well intentioned, as they recognised the dangerous crush behind them, their actions meant authorities then lost control of how many legitimate ticket holders were in the stadium.

However, because many of these initial checks were abandoned amid the chaos, people arrived at turnstiles with tickets that would not scan. That made stewards either hostile and aggressive or led to the necessity of letting fans climb over or under turnstiles. It also may account for the incorrect ‘forged tickets’ narrative gaining currency.

What REALLY happened before the Champions League final in Paris

ROB DRAPER EXCLUSIVE: Chaos at the Champions League final in Paris was triggered by a technological meltdown, an investigation by The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If all in this article is true then the main problem was 37k Liverpool fans going to a ground designed to host ~23k Liverpool fans. That would obviously create logistical chaos ffs.

 

[Blue Mist]

They may just find out soon the difference between a public enquiry and a legal case. I hope they are ready for full disclosure.

Nah, like most civil cases they are looking to settle out of court. The scouse firm will simply say they will settle for 300 euro per person, take 150e out give the liars 150 and everyone's happy.

 

[halfcenturyup]

That's interesting. I used to think Ceferin was in City's camp but I am not sure where he sits these days. It would be nice to think that UEFA may be getting wise to the antics of the "history clubs." I wonder if Khaldoon will ever get an invite to one of the top UEFA committees. That would be symbolic.

I am guessing that Ceferin isn't in City's camp, but that City are in Ceferin's camp. His number one enemy, and probably City's as well, is the old G14 and their ESL threats to effectively take UEFA's ball away. Once that is settled by the ECJ then he will be in a stronger position to, hopefully, clear up his mess. I would imagine City are, covertly, on his side and I wouldn't be surprised if we were "rewarded" after the dust settles.

 

[Oldtraffordblue1]

If all in this article is true then the main problem was 37k Liverpool fans going to a ground designed to host ~23k Liverpool fans. That would obviously create logistical chaos ffs.

If the French police/stadium authorities had not acted in the way that they did (ignore the gangs attacking fans which they should have sorted) would the Stade De France have become another Wembley Euro Finals fiasco? 2700 fake tickets + X number of jibbers and was this problem spread to the neutral area and therefore even bigger numbers?

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

Aside from the mass ticket fraud going on leading up to this game, genuine LFC ticket holding fans were treated appallingly leading up to kick off.
I am glad it wasn’t us having to go through that ordeal on the day.

The venue was clearly wrong for a 50/50 split of tickets.
Hate them or not, herding fans into that tunnel was disgusting. Teargassing kids was disgusting.Leaving them stand outside in a queue for 3 hours was disgusting.

I am trying to look at this objectively. The ticket fraud was a big part of the problem, and they only have themselves to blame for that as a fanbase, but the genuine ticket holder has been shafted by Uefa, the FFF and the police.

 

[jrb]

Aside from the mass ticket fraud going on leading up to this game, genuine LFC ticket holding fans were treated appallingly leading up to kick off.
I am glad it wasn’t us having to go through that ordeal on the day.

The venue was clearly wrong for a 50/50 split of tickets.
Hate them or not, herding fans into that tunnel was disgusting. Teargassing kids was disgusting.Leaving them stand outside in a queue for 3 hours was disgusting.

I am trying to look at this objectively. The ticket fraud was a big part of the problem, and they only have themselves to blame for that as a fanbase, but the genuine ticket holder has been shafted by Uefa, the FFF and the police.

Looking forward to Istanbul.

 

[asgoodasitgets]

The elephant in the room that everyone ignores is it was dippers with fake tickets taking the seats from dippers who bought legally.

That caused the hold up.

Why arent the genuine dippers letting everyone know that fellow dippers with fake tickets cost them their seats ?

We have all seen the pictures on social media of bundles of fake dipper tickets. We have seen the dippers on social media climbing over the fences.
We have seen on social media dippers bragging about jibbing in.
We have all seen on social media the dippers by the fence waving their fake tickets thinking they are real.

If this was City I would be fucking furious if another City fan with a fake ticket had taken my seat. Yet dippers seem happy to blame everyone else except their own fans. The fans that caused the problems.

I was having this on another non football forum with a couple of match going dippers and their usual hangers on from overseas who have never seen the inside of a football stadium. The two match goers were perplexed that I thought the doubling up to get in and taking someone else seat was out of order. He genuinely said that if someone was in his seat, he simply moved into someone else’s seat . No matter how I approached it, I was the weird one who didn’t get it.