Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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bluemoon32 said:
Liverpool, to win 1978 European cup.
And then beat Bruges in the final

RoundOpponentsFirst legSecond legAggregate score
1stBye———
2ndDynamo Dresden5–1 (h)1–2 (a)6–3
Quarter-finalBenfica2–1 (a)4–1 (h)6–2
Semi-finalBorussia Mönchengladbach1–2 (a)3–0 (h)4–2
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Tbf Benfica were european heavyweights in those days, and Gladbach had a tremendous team in the 70's winning the Bundesliga 5 times and the UEFA cup twice, but overall the path to the final was much easier in those days when only the national champions played.
 
Chak19 said:
Tbf Benfica were european heavyweights in those days, and Gladbach had a tremendous team in the 70's winning the Bundesliga 5 times and the UEFA cup twice, but overall the path to the final was much easier in those days when only the national champions played.
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Yep.
Gladbach beat us in the uefa Cup in that era too.

The uefa Cup,in those days,was arguably tougher to win.
Two quality sides from,Italy,Spain,Germany,etc qualified.
And a two legged final.
 
Liverpool are the last team that should be carrying on about easy routes to finals

1977 European Cup - Crusaders of Belfast, Trabzonspor, St Etienne, Zurich (Gladbach in final)
1984 - Odense, Bilbao, Benfica, Dinamo Bucharest
1985 - Poznan, Benfica, Austria Vienna, Panathinaikos

Inter, Benfica and Villarreal ffs to get to the final last year
consistently managing to pull Porto out during the last decade at key times in the knockout rounds
 
jamesha said:
Imagine a parallel universe where the good Sheikh bought the dippers rather than City. They would probably have won everything for a decade but would still be playing the victim. I'm glad I live in this reality :)
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Remember the banners in the kop - begging Dubai to buy them

What utter hypocritical know-nothing fuckwits
 
This isn't a Klopp-specific thing, but I noticed that during the game against Villa, he had an earpiece with microphone in, presumably to communicate with the bench. Is it just me, or if a manager is banned, surely they shouldn't still be allowed to communicate with the team. Given that the main thing they do on the day is make tactical decisions, how is it a ban if they're still able to do that?
 
I'm With Stupid said:
This isn't a Klopp-specific thing, but I noticed that during the game against Villa, he had an earpiece with microphone in, presumably to communicate with the bench. Is it just me, or if a manager is banned, surely they shouldn't still be allowed to communicate with the team. Given that the main thing they do on the day is make tactical decisions, how is it a ban if they're still able to do that?
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They all do it.
 
The European Cup was harder to win as you had to win your league to get in it. People are looking at it now and seeing names they don't recognise, the ignorance levels are off the scale.

It would be very interesting to see how many teams have won the CL but weren't Champions when they qualified for entry. I know that's the rules now, but what it would show is that they wouldn't even have qualified for the European Cup back in the day.
 
A handy ‘cut out and keep’ guide to the quality of Liverpool, THE sharing team.

Shared 30 of the 30 PL titles
Shared 99 of the 103 old Division 1 titles
Shared 11 of the 100 old Division 2 titles
Shared 131 of the 151 FA cup winners
Shared 63 of the 63 League cup winners
Shared 12 of the 37 European Cup winners
Shared 15 of the 30 Champions league titles
Shared 9 of the 38 UEFA cup winners
Shared 5 of the 39 Cup winners cup winners
Shared 4 of the 16 Inter-City fairs cup winners
 
JASR said:
A handy ‘cut out and keep’ guide to the quality of Liverpool, THE sharing team.

Shared 30 of the 30 PL titles
Shared 99 of the 103 old Division 1 titles
Shared 11 of the 100 old Division 2 titles
Shared 131 of the 151 FA cup winners
Shared 63 of the 63 League cup winners
Shared 12 of the 37 European Cup winners
Shared 15 of the 30 Champions league titles
Shared 9 of the 38 UEFA cup winners
Shared 5 of the 39 Cup winners cup winners
Shared 4 of the 16 Inter-City fairs cup winners
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Shared 4 of the 4 hubcaps off my car the robbing bastards.
 
malg said:
The European Cup was harder to win as you had to win your league to get in it. People are looking at it now and seeing names they don't recognise, the ignorance levels are off the scale.

It would be very interesting to see how many teams have won the CL but weren't Champions when they qualified for entry. I know that's the rules now, but what it would show is that they wouldn't even have qualified for the European Cup back in the day.
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Don't agree with your first paragraph tbh. Harder to qualify for yes, but not harder to win once qualified.
15 in 23 seasons.
Chronologically;
Rags 98/99
Madrid 99/00
Milan 02/03
Dippers 04/05
Milan 06/07
Barca 08/09
Chelsea 11/12
Bayern 12/13
Madrid 13/14
Barca 14/15
Madrid 15/16
Madrid 16/17
Dippers 18/19
Chelsea 20/21
Madrid 21/22

If anything the changes to qualification have made it far harder for the league champions to win it and made it next to impossible for anyone outside of England, Germany, Italy and Spain (only Porto in 23 seasons as a winner and no losing finalists either, the 23 years prior to the changes saw 6 winners and 8 losing finalists from outside those 4 countries).
 
aguero93:20 said:
Don't agree with your first paragraph tbh. Harder to qualify for yes, but not harder to win once qualified.
15 in 23 seasons.
Chronologically;
Rags 98/99
Madrid 99/00
Milan 02/03
Dippers 04/05
Milan 06/07
Barca 08/09
Chelsea 11/12
Bayern 12/13
Madrid 13/14
Barca 14/15
Madrid 15/16
Madrid 16/17
Dippers 18/19
Chelsea 20/21
Madrid 21/22

If anything the changes to qualification have made it far harder for the league champions to win it and made it next to impossible for anyone outside of England, Germany, Italy and Spain (only Porto in 23 seasons as a winner and no losing finalists either, the 23 years prior to the changes saw 6 winners and 8 losing finalists from outside those 4 countries).
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I agree that having more clubs from the big leagues makes it harder for those outside.

The bigger difference is that those big leagues, and the top clubs within them have pulled away financially, so the better players at any smaller clubs will be transferred quickly (Obviously part of this is due to the changes you talk about) - but it's the level of money involved that's changed.

Even at the end of the 90s, Arsenal's revenue was less than £50m a year, and that was when the money rush was already well underway. Plenty of rich people had the finances up until that point to make an impact Europe wide with their club. Now, you need to be a multi-billionaire, and with FFP that's still incredibly difficult.
 
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