simon23
Well-Known Member
Get the bit about deliberate and we agree it wasntAre you able to go for the ball and somehow only connect with the top of it, bouncing off the ball into someone's leg, while being in control of the challenge?
I'd say it all adds up to not being in control. And when you see the bend of the defender's leg, it suggests there's enough force to cause serious damage.
I dont think it was deliberate, but it doesn't have to be any more. Remember when Kompany got sent off for his foul on Rooney when he didn't even make any contact??
I dont remember the RooneyKompany incident but its pretty irrelevant whatever it was considering the rule changes.
I personally believe that the bar has been set too low regarding physical challenges and for me its just encouraging players more and more to try and get opponents sent off...which for me spoils the game no matter what as a spectacle
Im not disgareeing with your interpritation of what happened but the excessive force bar/bit is set too high for me and that doesnt meet it. He goes through the ball and over the top in a clear attempt to play the ball which he does...Im not sure that is out of control......two footed off the ground is out of control or diving in from range is out of control or as I said your Vinnie Jones and also Rooney who you mentioned...they were often out of control in challenges.
I dont want to stick up for the scousers but that refereeing was terrible at the weekend and I think it was the same ref that didnt give the foul by Ohnana in the Wolves/Utd game in the first game of the season (could be wrong)