Liverpool Thread - 2023/24

[ZanteWeatherman]

Nunez is fucking shit, that is all

I said to my mate "Fucking hell, he's raheemed it"

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

Wow so if I get offered because people call me garibaldi, they say it's a biscuit and I say it’s aimed at because I'm Gary and a Baldy I win !!

That news is going to be hard to digest(ive) for some

 

[Mon Autre]

Always surprises me how many people seem to think "We're not singing about about Hillsborough, were singing about a different tragedy" seems to be an acceptable defence whenever this comes up.

 

[Coatigan]

Always surprises me how many people seem to think "We're not singing about about Hillsborough, were singing about a different tragedy" seems to be an acceptable defence whenever this comes up.

What other tragedy is it they are they singing about?

Nobody that accuses it of being a tragedy chant has ever claimed it to be anything other than about Hillsborough.

 

[Gazza]

Nunez is fucking shit, that is all

Mind you, the header from Salah was a bit 50p head.

 

[Pontypool Blue]

I was in the London Dungeon yesterday.
In the Courtroom scene they pick a Random guy into the dock where he is asked by the judge "And where are you from ?"
He replies "Liverpool"
"GUILTY - HANG HIM! " is the immediate reply.
I've been before so know this is how it always plays out, but I found it funnier that I ought too.
Made sure he saw my City bobble hat on the way out lol

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Always surprises me how many people seem to think "We're not singing about about Hillsborough, were singing about a different tragedy" seems to be an acceptable defence whenever this comes up.

I agree with this. No doubt the song was originally about Heysel but the "victim" phrase is tasteless given the Hillsborough history. I have never sung this song. It was originally started by United fans and just gives more ammunition to our enemies. Don't get me wrong. I do believe some LFC fans have to some extent "weaponised" Hillsborough and MUFC have certainly commercialised "Munich" but our fans should show more class and rise above it all. For example "Old Trafford is falling down" is brilliant.

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

I agree with your post but there is a strain of legal thought which suggests that it is the perception of the so called offended person of a comment being offensive which is more important than the actual wording of the comment itself. So if a dipper feels they have been offended that's all that counts even if the comment or chant does not mention Hillsborough.

But everything offends them

 

[mexico1970]

What other tragedy is it they are they singing about?

Nobody that accuses it of being a tragedy chant has ever claimed it to be anything other than about Hillsborough.

Singing about the scouse victimhood is holding a mirror up to them, Heysel is relevant in fact it's more than relevant it encapsulates how they want special dispensation for everything.

Obviously LFC would want this forgotten about, amazing that some football fans want to sanitise chants and replace them with nursery rhymes whilst moralising how bad others are compared to them.

 

[Coatigan]

Singing about the scouse victimhood is holding a mirror up to them, Heysel is relevant in fact it's more than relevant it encapsulates how they want special dispensation for everything.

Obviously LFC would want this forgotten about, amazing that some football fans want to sanitise chants and replace them with nursery rhymes whilst moralising how bad others are compared to them.

The point I was responding to was claiming that it is a 'tragedy chant' and that people are using a get out of 'but it's not about Hillsborough but about another tragedy so it is ok'.

When a), anyone claiming it to be a tragedy chant has only ever claimed it to be about Hillsborough, and b) anyone claiming it is Not a tragedy chant has only ever argued it isn't about any tragedy, rather than not about a specific one but about another.

Hence the question.