Local Elections 2023

[SkyBlueFlux]

It is a disgrace really, be interesting to see which demographic this affects the most.

I read a survey the other day which I can't find now (though I'll continue looking for it). From memory it said voter ID rules impact those who intend to vote Labour and Green disproportionately. Mainly because it's rarer than ever before for young people (18-25) to have a driver's license or regularly travel abroad because the costs of owning a car or taking holidays has gotten so high. More young people also don't drink these days. We're not talking huge chunks of the population here, but it's big enough to make a difference.

That scans for me, I don't drive and didn't go abroad for about 10 years, I only had a provisonal license for the sole reason of buying alcohol until I got my passport in 2017 at the age of 27.

They modeled an impact of 6% on Labour's total vote versus 2% for Tories. That translates to roughly a 1.5-2% vote share swing to Conservatives. Which is a fair chunk in the context of a general election where that kind of margin can really matter.

 

[Scottyboi]

Kids need ID for everything so more likely older types with paper driving licences who haven't moved house in 20/30 years. Another thing is if they check dates, as a lot of people will have expired passports.

Birth Certificates are usually accepted by statutory services as you can't exclude people.

That was my impression when I went to vote, some old dear scrambling round for her ID. Completely unnecessary and will only help keep the turnout low.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Found it - it was actually part of the same Survation poll as my initial post.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Not voting as I tore up and binned my voting card weeks ago.

We have Labour councillors, always have and always will yet they do next to nothing for the area as far as I can see. They sent out a leaflet and it just mentioned about beating up the Tories, nothing about the area itself.

The alternative is the Tories who will do even less.

What's the point?

Get in the bin.

 

[Corky]

Found it - it was actually part of the same Survation poll as my initial post.

Remember the Polls for the 1992 GE? Drastically out as people don't admit voting tory or are more likely to avoid being surveyed if tory voters.

 

[Vic]

Labour just posted a leaflet with fuck all information about why you should vote for them, just that I need to bring ID tomorrow haha.

Do they think you vote Labour? The leaflet may only be going to those who might support them. Why remind the opposition who wanted photo ID to suppress young voters.

 

[kaz7]

Not voting , fucking tories stranglehold in my area and the cunts have changed the rules so that labour supporters are disadvantaged , dirty and desperate trick

 

[Scottyboi]

Do they think you vote Labour? The leaflet may only be going to those who might support them. Why remind the opposition who wanted photo ID to suppress young voters.

No, first time voting for them in this house. I watched them deliver it to every house on my road, it's all very petty near mine with these local elections all sorts of small time shite being posted online besmirching eachother haha. But none have door knocked or posted any information on what they have to offer, piss poor.

 

[Vic]

Kids need ID for everything so more likely older types with paper driving licences who haven't moved house in 20/30 years. Another thing is if they check dates, as a lot of people will have expired passports.

Birth Certificates are usually accepted by statutory services as you can't exclude people.

That's the issue. The usual photo ID young people have is not acceptable.

Expired passport is OK if the picture looks like you.

Birth certs don't have photo

 

[kaz7]

That's the issue. The usual photo ID young people have is not acceptable.

Expired passport is OK if the picture looks like you.

Birth certs don't have photo

Anything with a photo should be ok, you can even use blue badges for the car as it has a picture on it , the tories have excluded younger people on purpose