Local Elections | Thu 7 May 26

Good news is, Reform haven't done nearly as well as expected which means there's still hope. Bad news, they've still done alright. Still have 3 years without them potentially running the country.

Let them fuck a few councils up in 3 years, increase tax they promised to decrease and people in those areas will want shot of them.

Plus voting habits are different at generals. People more likely to vote for who they want at locals. At generals it's usually the best realistic option.
 
Its not a surprise, the whole area was reliant upon one industry that was killed by Thatcher and then deliberately left to rot. Labour got in under Blair and once again did nothing to rejuvenate the area. Cycle back to the Tories and more of the same.

Thats two generations of being ignored, so its not a surprise that they have gone down the Reform route as foolish as that may be.

Its a very different lived experience for people who have seen some positive changes in and around major cities but for these pockets of poverty, which are in effect pretty rural areas, they have been forgotten by mainstream parties.

Its a similar situation in places like Hartlepool.

Labour moved to the right under Blair and in doing so lost many of its traditional voters and if there's a vacuum it inevitably gets filled with more extremist views.
It was depressing to listen to the “Westminster bubble brigade” on the radio this morning spouting all the same platitudes. The reality is that 50m people outside Greater London have been treated with contempt for decades. Some of them are so desperate they have been driven Into the arms of Farage….who is just another chancer as far as I can see.
 
The issue is; we can’t afford to be handing out millions in benefits to economic migrants and we just as well shouldn’t be handing out benefits to our own work shy. I’m clearly focusing on both. Of course there is more emphasis on the new arrivals as we don’t have to let them in. Poland and Hungary do a great job and they don’t have the issues we have.

Obesity costs the economy about ten times what benefits for migrants does. Don’t forget about the fatties too.
 
it seems a bit much to spend a lot of time on a Labour council going to NOC (having changed over the last four years from Lab-NOC-NOC-Lab) when they only won it 2 years ago and are 1 short of a majority - that seems more standard experience in a marginal council.
 
The issue is; we can’t afford to be handing out millions in benefits to economic migrants and we just as well shouldn’t be handing out benefits to our own work shy. I’m clearly focusing on both. Of course there is more emphasis on the new arrivals as we don’t have to let them in. Poland and Hungary do a great job and they don’t have the issues we have.
Poland has taken in thousands of Ukrainians, so they are exempt from having to participate in taking in asylum seekers.
 
42% reduction? Source? It's just that this week's Express invented a milestone of 200,000 migrants by boat "since the crisis began" rather than comparing current crossings with previous years.

Govt figures for the first three months of this year, hence the moving of the goalposts by the media. Give it six months and it will be since 1066.

Update: 37% reduction to 6th May. BBC tracker

 
The issue is; we can’t afford to be handing out millions in benefits to economic migrants and we just as well shouldn’t be handing out benefits to our own work shy. I’m clearly focusing on both. Of course there is more emphasis on the new arrivals as we don’t have to let them in. Poland and Hungary do a great job and they don’t have the issues we have.
The notoriously far right authoritarian countries of Poland & Hungary are your benchmark for success? Fuck me

Do you know what an economic migrant is? You do know that we have economic migrants from both Poland and Hungary. But they're not the problem because they're white.

As for the predominately brown "new arrivals", we have no choice but to let them in. As soon as they're in the English Channel, they become our responsibility and we can't send them back to France because of Brexit. This is what Farage wanted wasn't it? Taking back control? Yet things have got worse since Brexit, who would have thought eh?
 
A bit like the BBC Today interview with John Healey who was citing all the good changes Labour has done. Interviewer suggested people weren't listening to that stuff - Healey should have responded and said the BBC and other media were more interested in Labour's mistakes.
More interested in ignoring the allegations against Farage, for certain, while amplifying every transgression from everyone on the left. It is ruthlessly transparent, and ugly, the way that our media manipulates people.
 
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The issue is; we can’t afford to be handing out millions in benefits to economic migrants and we just as well shouldn’t be handing out benefits to our own work shy. I’m clearly focusing on both. Of course there is more emphasis on the new arrivals as we don’t have to let them in. Poland and Hungary do a great job and they don’t have the issues we have.
Who told you that? The party whose rich, white racist leader, who uses aggressive tax avoidance methods and convinces people that migrants are the issue?

Those guys?

Yes, there is an illegal migration problem, but it's being vastly overplayed in the media. I'm not saying there aren't problem areas, but you've also got local antagonists creating issues on purpose to perpetuate their narratives and agendas. The real issues are the criminal human trafficking gangs and the politicians & their clingon's lining their pockets on hate and fear.
 
The issue is; we can’t afford to be handing out millions in benefits to economic migrants and we just as well shouldn’t be handing out benefits to our own work shy. I’m clearly focusing on both. Of course there is more emphasis on the new arrivals as we don’t have to let them in. Poland and Hungary do a great job and they don’t have the issues we have.
We can actually afford both if we are willing to tackle tax avoidance by corporations and uber-wealthy. But, we won't, and the little-guy will continue to be blamed for a situation made exponentially worse by austerity and Brexit, the architect of which is now leading the polls. In another universe, alien beings are shaking their heads and laughing their green cocks off.
 
The notoriously far right authoritarian countries of Poland & Hungary are your benchmark for success? Fuck me

Do you know what an economic migrant is? You do know that we have economic migrants from both Poland and Hungary. But they're not the problem because they're white.

As for the predominately brown "new arrivals", we have no choice but to let them in. As soon as they're in the English Channel, they become our responsibility and we can't send them back to France because of Brexit. This is what Farage wanted wasn't it? Taking back control? Yet things have got worse since Brexit, who would have thought eh?
Yes two of the safest countries in Europe. Those two.

It’s nothing to do with them being white. The Polish and Hungarians that are here integrate well just as the Indians, Filipinos, Caribbean’s etc do. The elephant in the room is a Salafi Jihadist one.
 
The issue is; we can’t afford to be handing out millions in benefits to economic migrants and we just as well shouldn’t be handing out benefits to our own work shy. I’m clearly focusing on both. Of course there is more emphasis on the new arrivals as we don’t have to let them in. Poland and Hungary do a great job and they don’t have the issues we have.

Hungary has one of the lowest growth and salary figures in the EU which is another reason why they dumped Orban. They also have what is dubbed a ‘slavery law’ compelling workers to do overtime with payment deferred - or without pay in plain English. This is due to a shortage of labour or immigrants in plain English.

Poland has around 1.5 million Ukrainians in the country. And yes it has caused issues.

Just for your info.
 
what we need now is SOME strange and RANdom emPHASising from Kuennsberg. Good thing really, as Mason appeared to have either dialled it back or just had his battery run down.

It's not a particularly serious description to say Birmingham is a 'mega-council'. just say 2nd largest without TikTokspeak.
 

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