Lucas Paqueta investigated by FA for alleged betting breaches

JewelZee said:
Yes. Apparently Toney only bet on the outcome of games including his own but only to win in those instances so he himself did not do anything on the pitch to affect an outcome like take a yellow, handle a ball in the box, miss a pen.

As a player he is privy to information others outside the team are not privy to and even some info on other teams through friends and such on those teams so he gains an advantage as someone betting on these games. It's against the rules but not "illegal".

What Paqueta has been accused of is illegal as he's committing an intentional act to control the outcome of something being wagered upon. People bet he's going to be booked knowing he will purposely commit an act to get booked. It's like a fighter taking a dive.

Why these fucking greedy bookmakers would allow betting on things that can be so easily manipulated is a whole other matter, like there isn't enough being bet on already without these type of ridiculous prop bets.

That said if it's found out that he actually did what's being said he should be banned from the Prem, possibly forever. A clear message needs to be sent that this type of behavior won't be tolerated in any way.
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I only bet (if I ever have one these days) on bookings, corners, time of goal etc rather than a win or loss. My father in law is in to his horses and he has a footy bet on win, lose or draw at times but he will bet £10 to win £1, I only tend to bet on odds of 3/1 or more (this goes back to my poker playing days).
I can remember having a bet on SWP to score first and city to win 4-1 (can’t remember who we played) the odds were 450/1! You can’t get close, anywhere near close, to that these days lol. So the specials give better odds for me.
i‘ll add though, I bet once in a while and sometimes not for months. I also tend to bet on televised games. My only horse bets are the grand national.
On a side note… I won’t say who as they’ve all retired and moved back to their native countries, but I’ve been lucky enough to be very close friends to some very well known footballers in my life, I’ve been to casino’s with them plenty of times, played poker weekly with them and I’ve seen them bet £££’s over who’s ice cube will melt quickest (that’s a popular one with footy players for some reason), none of these play anymore as I say but they all bet when they did! It’s not a new thing, I had bets on players moving when I was told they were likely, don’t forget players are mates with others from local clubs. I never saw them bet on the outcome of games though to be fair, but betting on who got to training first or ice cubes was standard as crazy at it sounds.
 
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Sheikh rattle and roll said:
That’s why he got dropped from the England squad and fairly serve penalty/ban
He bet on Brentford to lose 13 times
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I thought that was only in games in which he didn’t play, as opposed to playing in games and betting against himself while playing?

Either way, dumb as rocks to do it and glad he got caught!
 
kupest said:
Could you elaborate, I am just curious on the difference in the cases.
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Someone explained it earlier but…
Toney bet on his team winning when he played, he bet on his team losing when he didn’t, in this instance he’s not influenced the results & although it’s banned, it’s not illegal.
Paqueta has bet or had people bet on him getting cards, & possibly other things we may later find out like free kicks etc. He is influencing the game & match fixing or spot betting which is illegal as it can alter a result.
He’s looking at potentially ending his career if found guilty. If he not found guilty then he’ll be watched for the rest of his life & doubt has now been planted in everyone’s minds!
 
I’m willing to bet that we will hear of more instances that are being investigated at some point today. I’d also not be surprised to hear it’s more than just yellow cards but also things like free kicks, penalties scored or missed, throw ins etc etc. it’s rare it’s just one thing.
 
NMB said:
The elephant in the room. West Ham and the EFL allowed the City bidding process to proceed when both must have been aware of the pending investigation. Is this at all ethical? If not, how does this impact the 115 charges? Surely now all charges must be dropped immediately.
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Why?

The 2 things have literally fuck all to do with each other.
 
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