Luxury yacht sinks off Sicily

[BlueHammer85]

Been on that several times but prefer driving through the Blackwall tunnel as it's a lot quicker.

Thank god West Ham moved, driving through there on a Saturday was hell on earth.

 

[pride in battle]

I don't think so, do you ? Perhaps you could expand a little and tell me what I have said on this thread makes me, in your eyes, a wanker.

Im getting the vibe :)

 

[Blue Maverick]

I agree. I just found those comments incredibly insensitive considering they were sailing on the same shipping company where 38 crew had died only weeks before. Geoff Haney the chef who died was only 30. A big Blue I still remember him outside Wembley against Tottenham in 1981 playing a bloody tuba! Why I have no idea lol.

Good memories pal and ye I agree that humour is usually for groups you know not to shout out in public.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Where as i fully appreciate we live in a world where people are bumped off by men in suits, surely there are much more assured ways of assassinating someone than sinking his boat and hoping for the best?

I always thought that with princess di. I mean, she might have just got whip lash

 

[kaz7]

Four bodies found on the boat , why do the same people infest threads like this , bit of respect please

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The gallows humour I think is because people don’t want to acknowledge how fragile life is, I certainly used it all the time as coping mechanism for the stuff I’ve witnessed otherwise it drives you mad, unfortunately it doesn’t help with the memories I have now which seem to be resurfacing now and then at the weirdest times.

Was the pun intended?

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

And if the rich man on a boat happened to kick a football about for a living, would we be allowed to care then?

Well said, Gareth.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

The majority of real professional hits are made to look like accidents or suicide for obvious reasons, ie no investigations.

I'm guessing suicide has already been ruled out. Which actually makes your post all the more plausible.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Where as i fully appreciate we live in a world where people are bumped off by men in suits, surely there are much more assured ways of assassinating someone than sinking his boat and hoping for the best?

I always thought that with princess di. I mean, she might have just got whip lash

This sort of reasoning is where conspiracy theories fall down.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Where as i fully appreciate we live in a world where people are bumped off by men in suits, surely there are much more assured ways of assassinating someone than sinking his boat and hoping for the best?

I always thought that with princess di. I mean, she might have just got whip lash

I know they think it's a James Bond Movie plot tie him over a shark pool, cut him in half with a Laser or drag him behind a boat. Just shoot him for Gods sake.

 

[Zablo Pabletta]

I know they think it's a James Bond Movie plot tie him over a shark pool, cut him in half with a Laser or drag him behind a boat. Just shoot him for Gods sake.

Funnily enough... that ties in with why my reaction to the story might have been less than proper.

The basic reason is the whole story surrounding Mike Lynch, HP - Autonomy deal fraud allegations. The US application for extradition turned into a battle that lasted a decade, with Mr Lynch - part of Cameron's Technical Council, whilst hiring Tory Owned PR firms to lobby the govt to change the law. I won't go into the case itself. But he ended up facing trial this year, obviously happy to be found not guilty.

The tie in? The prosecution case revealed he had a piranha tank in his office - a la Blofeld - and all the meeting rooms were named after Bond villains. Mike denied he was trading on an intimidating image, and said it was because he was a Bond fanatic.

All said and done, whilst I freely admit I can't judge Mike Lynch from afar, alas, I can't say I'm welling up. It is human nature to think, there goes the maritime equivalent of Icarus, the worlds largest mast got too close to the sun - rather than pay honest respects. Honestly, I think it's compassion fatigue as much as anything. I'm sorry if that offends people. People have suffered, died and lost, and that's never a good thing.

 

[paulchapo]

All will be revealed.... probably...at the inquest.
From the reports I've read a couple of things seem slightly odd, although the inquest will shed more light on them.
The first one is that all the crew, aside from the chef who sadly died, appeared to be up and working at 4:30-5am. This normally wouldn't be the case. At that time in the morning and the vessel not sailing usually just one watch keeper would be on duty.
Secondly some passengers appeared to be on deck when the vessel sank, others in bed. One was a woman with a baby. Again odd.
This could be that they had been woken by the storm and the ship's movement and gone on deck to see what was going on and possibly out of fear. Or it could be the crew were on emergency stations and starting to wake up the passengers for possible evacuation.
Reports appear to suggest the vessel sank in sixty seconds, yet a life raft had been launched. That is a very quick time to launch and inflate a life raft, especially on a sinking vessel. They are designed to break free from their moorings and auto inflate but that is only once the stricken vessel reaches a certain depth underwater.
The storm was forecast and as a result I would have expected the captain to have taken her into port as they were so close to land. I'm hearing some hatches and doors may have been left open but with a storm forecast that should never have been the case. Battening down the hatches we call storm preparation, everything is made as secure and watertight as possible. I'm slightly surprised reports are saying they may have been left open for a breeze to flow through, but surely a super yacht would have air conditioning? Even then storm.preperation would have superceded comfort.

A lot of questions to be asked at the inquest for sure.

 

[Scottyboi]

All will be revealed.... probably...at the inquest.
From the reports I've read a couple of things seem slightly odd, although the inquest will shed more light on them.
The first one is that all the crew, aside from the chef who sadly died, appeared to be up and working at 4:30-5am. This normally wouldn't be the case. At that time in the morning and the vessel not sailing usually just one watch keeper would be on duty.
Secondly some passengers appeared to be on deck when the vessel sank, others in bed. One was a woman with a baby. Again odd.
This could be that they had been woken by the storm and the ship's movement and gone on deck to see what was going on and possibly out of fear. Or it could be the crew were on emergency stations and starting to wake up the passengers for possible evacuation.
Reports appear to suggest the vessel sank in sixty seconds, yet a life raft had been launched. That is a very quick time to launch and inflate a life raft, especially on a sinking vessel. They are designed to break free from their moorings and auto inflate but that is only once the stricken vessel reaches a certain depth underwater.
The storm was forecast and as a result I would have expected the captain to have taken her into port as they were so close to land. I'm hearing some hatches and doors may have been left open but with a storm forecast that should never have been the case. Battening down the hatches we call storm preparation, everything is made as secure and watertight as possible. I'm slightly surprised reports are saying they may have been left open for a breeze to flow through, but surely a super yacht would have air conditioning? Even then storm.preperation would have superceded comfort.

A lot of questions to be asked at the inquest for sure.

Going off what you have put, it sounds like the classic ''Could never happen to us'' type situation where complacency causes unnecessary deaths.

 

[better dead than red]

Going off what you have put, it sounds like the classic ''Could never happen to us'' type situation where complacency causes unnecessary deaths.

Rich boss says, "Do what I say or you're fired!"?

"Yes, boss."

 

[paulchapo]

Going off what you have put, it sounds like the classic ''Could never happen to us'' type situation where complacency causes unnecessary deaths.

That often happens in disasters. Human error and sloppy work practices.