Lyon CL QF Post-Match Thread

Just one day ago in Office (France) were talking with a friend about CL games he doesn't know am a city fan, he asked me what do i think about the coming game, i said city but you never know in one game bla bla he said are you crazy Lyon are going to get dicked.

Then after 10 minutes i got the feeling of those games... when you can smell shit from the other corner of the street :)
 
bluemoon32 said:
We cant go into the new season not knowing what Pep is going to do, the players will just go through the motions until the new manager comes in.
I think we're at that crossroads of 'either he signs an extension or he leaves immediately' and someone else starts the rebuild.
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To me Khaldoon gets them all together tomorrow morning, are you in for the long term? if the answer is no, pay him off and we move on.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
I'm bitterly disappointed and last night the air was blue (!) as I fumed about the result. I know we were poor and the performance was well below par. The intensity was gone from our game and we never played at the tempo associated with City, but much of the criticism is way out of order, especially of Pep. I have no right at all to question Pep's team selection or his formation or his tactics and no-one else can argue with him either. Demands that he be sacked are little more than applications for a place in the mad house. What happened last night was that we lost a football match because we didn't play very well BUT also because Raheem missed and absolute sitter at the end of a season in which he has been truly phenomenal and at the end of a match in which he was one of our best performers and in which Eddie made one of a handful small number of mistakes he has made all season BUT MOST OF ALL BECAUSE we were, YET AGAIN, shafted by the travesty which masquerades as VAR. But this team and this manager and this board and everyone at the club are strong enough to keep a cool head - unlike the armchair strategists who feel they know best - sleep on it, and try to do better next season with a little help from the gods ( and no malevolence from the establishment) this time.
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Sterling has always been hit and miss and we made individual mistakes. That is true but perhaps if you give the players the best possible preparation and strategy they will have performed better. Selecting a pedestiran midfield/central defender was a mistake and he keeps making mistakes in iimportant games.

I know he's a genius but maybe he has a flaw.
 
Sky Blue said:
Fuming when I saw he was in the team. Shouldn't have even travelled.
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In truth every City fan across the globe would have felt exactly the same thing. Maybe on another day we get away with it but he tempted the footballing Gods and we got what we deserved.
 
Pep always comments on our mentality when it comes to Europe. He points out that compared to other clubs we are still trying to find that arrogance in the competition. He then undermines that by playing three defensive midfielders rather than our best team and makes the team play within themselves. The arrogance should come from playing the way we do all year against the top teams and winning. We need to get over the inferiority complex in the competition and that needs to start with Pep.
 
Beanhead said:
I don’t get it either the ball was played to him and he dummied it. Regardless of whether he touched It or not it is still interfering with play. Both the keeper and defenders are focussed on the player through on goal. It’s bizarre to even begin to claim he’s not having an impact on play for that goal.
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Absolutely. If a player gets in the keepers view he is deemed to be interfering. When a player leaves the ball for a teammate to run onto, you see them raise their hands o
 
domalino said:
I hope people like you have the bollocks to stick to your opinion that Pep is a danger the club and root of all failure when we are successful again next season and don't just try an melt into the background.
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Folk are cheesed off dom as you're response shows. In relation to your next season comment, success isn't guaranteed. In fact I don't think we are in a very good position. We have to blow this season out of our system, recover and prepare for the next campaign in a little over 3 weeks. This includes embedding new players into the team. If we're not careful things could be over before they've begun.
 
chickaroon said:
Absolutely. If a player gets in the keepers view he is deemed to be interfering. When a player leaves the ball for a teammate to run onto, you see them raise their hands over their head to say I am not involved. This guy was more than involved, he touched the ball.
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bluemoon32 said:
We cant go into the new season not knowing what Pep is going to do, the players will just go through the motions until the new manager comes in.
I think we're at that crossroads of 'either he signs an extension or he leaves immediately' and someone else starts the rebuild.
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Son of Peter Swales has spoken
 
One shocking statistic I discovered is that the midfield duo of Gundogan and Rodri made only 8 passes between them to our front 3 of Sterling, Jesus and De Bruyne. Gundogan made no passes to Sterling and Rodri made no passes to De Bruyne.
 
chaddblue said:
García isn’t even that good. A kid who doesn’t see his future with us, is too small and is criminally slow for a centre half.. gifted the opportunity to play in our biggest game of the season. I would rather have seen Ottamendi play than García
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Garcia needs replacing with Upamecano from RB Leipzig (please!).
 
HarrytheBlue said:
The one game knockout format favours the underdog. Over two legs you have time to claw back a two goal deficit and the better team over the two legs should go through. Being underdogs against Bayern would have suited us - given the right formation.
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I agree but the same shit happened against Monaco Liverpool and Spurs lost all the away games and couldn't keep a clean sheet at home.

During Mancini time, it was terrible but the Etihad was a fortress not a Big ** Hole
 
simon23 said:
No you are right my first post was wrong.....but it was about the 3 of them being selcted together not playing together as a midfiled 3 - (which i did type)that was my issue - we were so slow in those areas of the pitch

for me it should have been a flat back 4 from the off (possibly with Ferna at centre half with Laporte and garcia nowhere near the pitch.

The one of Rodri or gundogan in the 'Number 6 role" - play both of these and our midfield is dull and slow

For me the team should have been

Ederson

Walker Ferna Laporte Cancello

rodri

Kdb Silva

Mahrez Jesus Sterling

Now you could argue foden in there as well over Mahrez or instance and i wouldnt disagree. SOme may have Bernardo in there as well - again I wouldnt disagree.

We have seem Pep shoehorn Gundogan into big game teams before (Liverpool champs league) and we got beaten well that night as well - Now if you play Gundogan as the 6 fair enough (I would say it would have been very risky against Lyon last night personally

Cancello didnt have the best game but he is playing on the wrong side - people will say Mendy should have played but I think Cancello got it on merit and deserved to be there and for me Mendy is another liability

Jesus had one of those games - great build up play, link up, pressing and work rate but AGAIN when it comes to the main job of a striker he doesnt do it - not in the difficult moments

And what Sterling did defies belief - its what he used to do 3 years ago all the time but i thought he had put it out of his game
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No problems, it just seemed a very strange comment but that explains it.

I completely agree in terms of our midfield being dull and slow, it goes back to the combination of players yet again (2 or more of Gundogan, Rodri, Silva, Fernandinho, Mendy, Aguero and Mahrez) and you're starting off on the back foot for pace, intensity and aggression.

The biggest issue is width; we haven't got a natural winger who can get in behind teams and put in crosses, we just have forwards who cut in and shoot. That's for me why Sane has been a bigger miss than anyone, we've removed the "option" of pace and width.

The whole concept of our game is to make the pitch as big as possible in attack and as small as possible when defending. This season the lack of pace and width has stopped the attacking side of it, unfortunately that's been in combination with a lack of intensity and aggression in midfield which has stopped the defending side of it.

The signing of Torres will hopefully give us some pace and natural width. The midfield let's wait and see what the next three weeks hold. If Garcia is leaving and Stones is clearly no longer in favour, then we need another CB to compliment Laporte and Ake.

I genuinely don't understand yours or anyone's issue with Jesus, I think you're all fucking crackers. The lad is top class, different to Aguero but there's not another player on the planet who can do what Aguero does. It's a time to adapt and play to Jesus strengths.
 
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