Lyon CL QF | Pre-Match Thread

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Imagine Barca without Messi yesterday. Would have lost by 5-6 goals. Oh, wait...

Aguero is a legend but he would be more useful against Lyon than against Bayern where we would stand a chance only by being a proper high-pressing machine. Same with David.
I think the only way we’re going to beat Bayern is to not let them have the ball. Death by 1000 passes. I think Dave would be absolutely key to that.
 
I think the only way we’re going to beat Bayern is to not let them have the ball. Death by 1000 passes. I think Dave would be absolutely key to that.

It's premature to discuss Bayern, we are playing Lyon tonight.

Don't think Dave is key to beating a powerful high-pressing team like Bayern. We need energy and pace, a lot of it. We don't pass the ball around against Liverpool, we can't complete 1000 passes against Bayern as well. They are not Newcastle or Watford.
 
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It's premature to discuss Bayern, we are playing Lyon tonight.

Dave is no key to beating a powerful high-pressing team like Bayern. He hasn't been key to us against top teams since November 2018. We don't pass the ball around against Liverpool, we can't complete 1000 passes against Bayern as well. They are not Newcastle or Watford.
Ermm... you mentioned Bayern? I was replying to you..

Maybe you were “premature”..?
 
I didn't see anyone complaining about him overthinking when he played phil foden as a false 9 for the first time in his career against real Madrid in the biggest game of the season.

Or when he played KDB and Bernardo up front in a weird 442 against United and we humiliated him.

Playing Gundogan on the right had absolutely no bearing on the game we lost to Liverpool in 2018, bug individual mistakes in the back 4 ended that game before we ever got the chance to see what Pep was trying to do - apart from us being well on top before Walker fell over clearing a simple ball and passed it to Salah.

The "overthinking" line is just a really lazy and tired narrative pushed by the media and sadly picked up by some fans.

We lose games in our default 433 as well.
Phil as a false 9 was hardly a rip roaring success, at least not in the first half. No matter what formation he chooses our Achilles heel will always be the high line with only one pace man in defence. That and the enevitable mistakes we manage to pull out of nowhere. Cut that out and we can win it. Oh and take our fking chances.
 
Phil as a false 9 was hardly a rip roaring success, at least not in the first half. No matter what formation he chooses our Achilles heel will always be the high line with only one pace man in defence. That and the enevitable mistakes we manage to pull out of nowhere. Cut that out and we can win it. Oh and take our fking chances.

If you think Phil at false 9 was not a massive success than I dont think you actually watched the game. The combination of Phil blocking the midfield and Sterling + Jesus going after the centre backs is what made Madrid go to pieces and won us the game, and having a false 9 who dropped into midfield is why we ran rings around them in the centre of the park.

These things don't just happen by accident.
 
If you think Phil at false 9 was not a massive success than I dont think you actually watched the game. The combination of Phil blocking the midfield and Sterling + Jesus going after the centre backs is what made Madrid go to pieces and won us the game, and having a false 9 who dropped into midfield is why we ran rings around them in the centre of the park.

These things don't just happen by accident.
Couldn't he have just started in midfield to begin with? Or is that to simplistic a view. His energy is a huge plus no matter where he plays.
 
Phil as a false 9 was hardly a rip roaring success, at least not in the first half. No matter what formation he chooses our Achilles heel will always be the high line with only one pace man in defence. That and the enevitable mistakes we manage to pull out of nowhere. Cut that out and we can win it. Oh and take our fking chances.

Can you save the negativity for the match thread please?!
 
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