I've gone for City but we've seen how games in the Q/F swing on incidents. Penalties, refereeing error, individual mistakes, wonderful moments of skill. I expect City to win but I also know there is a decent chance we will not. And we'll all over react afterwards. Love it.
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01cravend
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I didn't see anyone complaining about him overthinking when he played phil foden as a false 9 for the first time in his career against real Madrid in the biggest game of the season.
Or when he played KDB and Bernardo up front in a weird 442 against United and we humiliated him.
Playing Gundogan on the right had absolutely no bearing on the game we lost to Liverpool in 2018, bug individual mistakes in the back 4 ended that game before we ever got the chance to see what Pep was trying to do - apart from us being well on top before Walker fell over clearing a simple ball and passed it to Salah.
The "overthinking" line is just a really lazy and tired narrative pushed by the media and sadly picked up by some fans.
We lose games in our default 433 as well.
Foden was put at 9 in our usual set-up with the sole purpose to press the shit out of Madrid. That's not really overthinking.
Gundogan on the right is basically culling any threat from that side and made no sense apart from trying to make us more press resistant.
I'll tell you whats tired, its the people who are just downright unwilling to lay any blame for results on Pep. It's the same everytime.. Pep knows more about football than anyone on here so anything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. Yes Pep is a footballing genius but that doesn't mean he can't be scrutinised.
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Foden was put at 9 in our usual set-up with the sole purpose to press the shit out of Madrid. That's not really overthinking.
Gundogan on the right is basically culling any threat from that side and made no sense apart from trying to make us more press resistant.
I'll tell you whats tired, its the people who are just downright unwilling to lay any blame for results on Pep. It's the same everytime.. Pep knows more about football than anyone on here so anything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. Yes Pep is a footballing genius but that doesn't mean he can't be scrutinised.
Sorry but you aren't scrutinising him.
Scrutiny would involve actually looking at the game and analysing why we lost, and if you did that you wouldn't blame Gundogan being on the right for us losing that game because it had nothing to do with it. We started really well in that game, we resisted their press, we were holding onto the ball in midfield in a way we hadn't been able to against them before. And then Walker served them a goal on a plate. And then the midfield 3 let Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain run unopposed at the defence - albeit after he got the ball a bit luckily - and gave him room to shoot. Neither of these goals had anything to do with Gundogan anymore than they had to do with Aguero.
What you've done is see a different line up, see we lost the game and then decide the 2 must be related and Peps to blame.
That's not scrutiny, its mindless scapegoating.
01cravend
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Sorry but you aren't scrutinising him.
Scrutiny would involve actually looking at the game and analysing why we lost, and if you did that you wouldn't blame Gundogan being on the right for us losing that game because it had nothing to do with it. We started really well in that game, we resisted their press, we were holding onto the ball in midfield in a way we hadn't been able to against them before. And then Walker served them a goal on a plate. And then the midfield 3 let Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain run unopposed at the defence - albeit after he got the ball a bit luckily - and gave him room to shoot. Neither of these goals had anything to do with Gundogan anymore than they had to do with Aguero.
What you've done is see a different line up, see we lost the game and then decide the 2 must be related and Peps to blame.
That's not scrutiny, its mindless scapegoating.
I didn't blame Gundogan, you brought him up
I didn't blame Gundogan, you brought him up
No you blamed Pep's lineup for the loss when actually it had sod all to do with it.
01cravend
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No you blamed Pep's lineup for the loss when actually it had sod all to do with it.
I mean Laporte at left-back definitely had something to do with it. Got run ragged by Salah
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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They beat Juventus 5 months ago. They played them 2 weeks ago and lost and they’ve not played a league game for months. We’ve got this.Come on city!
They did beat Juventus, so Pep and the boys won't be taking them lightly
I mean Laporte at left-back definitely had something to do with it. Got run ragged by Salah
And who would you have picked?
Mendy had done his knee, Delph hadn't played for 2 months because of injury.
Danilo instead? He'd been pretty shit at LB before, but I wouldn't have minded it. If you'd said the loss was because he put Laporte at LB I'd have more time for it than blaming Gundogan being on the right wing.
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