Madeleine McCann

[Machiavelli]

Security of my kids > disturbing their sleep patterns

There is one way to ensure they get a good nights sleep.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

There is one way to ensure they get a good nights sleep.

I shouldn't have laughed at that

Absolutely in hindsight but my point is they thought the resort was very safe and the kids were very safe.

Perhaps I've just got a decent amount of common sense, but leaving your kids alone in a foreign country with your apartment unlocked, next to a road is just really, really stupid?

 

[Captain Underpants]

Whenever I went on holiday with my mum and dad as a wee nipper it was exactly like you described, we weren't left alone; we were an integral part of the holiday
Then again I think I do have some great parents

You're right, our holidays are for our children and family, they are central to it. I love the time away and uninterrupted time with them. Like you, I would never contemplate leaving them alone for a social....

 

[Ban-jani]

I shouldn't have laughed at thatPerhaps I've just got a decent amount of common sense, but leaving your kids alone in a foreign country with your apartment unlocked, next to a road is just really, really stupid?

In terms of criminal reporting - the area is one of the safest in Europe. The resort a particularly safe part of that and the specific area they were in was incredibly quiet.

We can sit here all night and word things differently by describing what happened.

As I say, I think many parents did this until the Maddie case and I reckon that if you and I were present at that dinner table, we’d have probably not thought there was danger.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

In terms of criminal reporting - the area is one of the safest in Europe. The resort a particularly safe part of that and the specific area they were in was incredibly quiet.

We can sit here all night and word things differently by describing what happened.

As I say, I think many parents did this until the Maddie case and I reckon that if you and I were present at that dinner table, we’d have probably not thought there was danger.

Let's just remove the potential of kidnapping for a second.
Being next to a road where your steps go down to it, did it not enter their heads that Madeline could've fell down the steps and hurt herself? Or gone out onto the road to find them and have the risk of being hit by a car?
It's brainless on multiple levels

 

[Ban-jani]

Let's just remove the potential of kidnapping for a second.
Being next to a road where your steps go down to it, did it not enter their heads that Madeline could've fell down the steps and hurt herself? Or gone out onto the road to find them and have the risk of being hit by a car?
It's brainless on multiple levels

I’m not 100% but I’m fairly sure there was no traffic at that time of evening at all in the resort, plus the stairs to the road were through two sets of doors, one of which was visible from the dinner table anyway and the kid would have had to turn left to get onto the road once outside the door. The only exit directly in contact with the road was their window, that was shut and you couldn’t access the road without climbing even if it was open.

Look do I think it was perfect parenting? No...but no one is a perfect parent and kids are at risk many times when growing up- I don’t think they did anything wrong compared to what the average parent in these resorts would have done.

As I say hindsight would say they should have used the crèche and I’m sure they think about that every single day but I just think we should give them a break.

How they were treated was appalling by the media and the police.

 

[yeseye]

Let's just remove the potential of kidnapping for a second.
Being next to a road where your steps go down to it, did it not enter their heads that Madeline could've fell down the steps and hurt herself? Or gone out onto the road to find them and have the risk of being hit by a car?
It's brainless on multiple levels

There’s a hundred and one dangerous scenarios why you don’t leave children alone.
Pure selfishness .

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

I’m not 100% but I’m fairly sure there was no traffic at the time, plus the stairs to the road were through two sets of doors, one of which was visible from the dinner table anyway and the kid would have had to turn left to get onto the road once outside the door. The only exit directly in contact with the road was their window, that was shut and you couldn’t access the road without climbing even if it was open.

Look do I think it was perfect parenting? No...but no one is a perfect parent and kids are at risk many times when growing up.

As I say hindsight would say they should have used the crèche and I’m sure they think about that every single day but I just think we should give them a break.

How they were treated was appalling by the media and the police.

I doubt they're reading BM, on a thread discussing the case I don't think it's unreasonable to bring up the case for neglect

 

[Captain Underpants]

But but but..... they deserve compassion and they didn’t know this was going to happen.

They were a pair of selfish cunts who brought the kids on holiday but couldn’t actually be arsed with them.

Bit don’t forget to be compassionate towards them though.

You're right, the whole thing just doesn't sit right with me.... As a parent there are sacrifices to be made, but they aren't punishments, just adjustments.... I just would never leave my kids in an apartment on their own whilst I went out on a jolly! I don't understand why they did? As a loving dad I just don't get it??

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

There’s a hundred and one dangerous scenarios why you don’t leave children alone.
Pure selfishness .

Exactly, Madeleine was around 3 years of age. This is an age where the concept of danger doesn't really make sense to them, any number of things could happen to a child that age when left alone