Madeleine McCann

I doubt they're reading BM, on a thread discussing the case I don't think it's unreasonable to bring up the case for neglect

Yeah that was a more wider point about society giving them a break, not specifically on here.

They still get called murderers now.

It’s not an unreasonable discussion at all no, I used to think it was neglect but have since changed my mind.

Hell, at one point I convinced myself they did it.

Some posters earlier started dishing out insults merely for disagreeing with them, that I don’t get on a thread like this.
 
So they put the kids in a crèche during the day and left them alone in the apartment at night? Why bother taking them at all if they're such an inconvenience?
ImI sure either set of grandparents would have loved to have looked after them at home while the two docs fucked off on their jollies.
 
One of my earliest memories was going to Blackpool with mum and dad for the weekend and on the Saturday night they went downstairs for a meal and left me alone in the room. I must have been about Maddie’s age, possibly a bit older. My brother (who is four years younger) wasn’t there. Mum might have been pregnant with him iirc.

I got up in the middle of the night (when they were downstairs) went into the corridor, where this old bird asked me if I was lost. I lied and said yes (not sure why). She took me downstairs to the bar, where her husband was and she bought me a drink (coke) and then my folks turned up a few minutes later. Got a right bollocking off my mum. It could have ended up very differently.

My mum and dad are both brilliant parents. Just because someone has failed to properly evaluate risk when it comes to their kids, doesn't mean they are otherwise shit parents or ‘bad’ people. People are complicated and can simply fuck up without any malign intent.
 
One of my earliest memories was going to Blackpool with mum and dad for the weekend and on the Saturday night they went downstairs for a meal and left me alone in the room. I must have been about Maddie’s age, possibly a bit older. My brother (who is four years younger) wasn’t there. Mum might have been pregnant with him iirc.

I got up in the middle of the night (when they were downstairs) went into the corridor, where this old bird asked me if I was lost. I lied and said yes (not sure why). She took me downstairs to the bar, where her husband was and she bought me a drink (coke) and then my folks turned up a few minutes later. Got a right bollocking off my mum. It could have ended up very differently.

My mum and dad are both brilliant parents. Just because someone has failed to properly evaluate risk when it comes to their kids, doesn't mean they are otherwise shit parents or ‘bad’ people. People are complicated and can simply fuck up without any malign intent.

Very true. Oddly enough, one of my earliest memories is of getting separated from my parents on the beach at Blackpool. I was probably only 3 or 4. In the 60s there were thousands of people on there, much more crowded than it is now.

Someone found me and took me to a caravan specifically for lost kids where I was given an ice cream and told to wait. Sounds sinister these days, but eventually my parents showed up and claimed me. No trauma, no "stress", innocent days.
 
Irrelevant. You do not leave 3 children who are wholly dependent on your for meeting all of their needs, including safety, on their own.

It’s that simple.
Lol, why is it irrelevant that you and others keep stating that the Tapas bar was 200 metres away, when it was only 77 metres.

Whats the reason that you're peddling this false information and continue to do so?
 
The sweets post is a bit poor, but i agree with the other half of his post. Smoking in a car with children is as bad if not worse than what the McCaan's did.

Both are unacceptable.

Smoking in a car with kids present is against the law I believe and so It should be. Not sure if leaving your young kids in an unlocked apartment while you go out to have a good time is illegal or not but it should be. One being wrong doesn't make other ok.

The actions of the parents certainly played a part in whatever happened to her. It's just a question of to what degree.
 
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The sweets post is a bit poor, but i agree with the other half of his post. Smoking in a car with children is as bad if not worse than what the McCaan's did.
Mmm how many kids each year are miserable , self harm and occasionally kill themselves because of obesity, how many lose their teeth every year , how many get type2 diabetes. I am not saying or even trying to suggest that if you give your kids sweets you are a rotten parent. My kids had some sweets .
But looking at it form what does harm to kids the number of instances of childhood abduction is vanishingly small , the number of cases of miserable fat kids is not.
 

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