Madeleine McCann

To me there are two crucial pieces of circumstantial evidence, both concerning the man carrying a child sighting.

In the first, the McCann's friend Jane Tanner claimed to have seen a man carrying a child. However, from her evidence it was considered almost impossible that no one else would have seen this man as according to this his route would have taken him past a busy area with a number of other people in it and no one else saw him as she described it.

However, an Irish family also saw a man carrying a child at the time of the incident. They were shown pictures of Robert Murat but failed to identify him. However, when they got back to Ireland and were watching the news, they saw the man they had seen that night. They believe it was Gerry McCann.
 
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Skashion said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
well I assume it does then.

cos it sounds to me like we'd never get anywhere in life with you going round saying "don't question it, she's innocent!".
Wherever have I ever said don't question? Everything should be questioned. I just continue to presume innocence (or non-existence) until proved otherwise. That's how logic dictates we do things.

those videos show evidence that leads to doubt and questioning, and a "why haven't they been properly criminally investigated?", because they clearly haven't been, the police has been a farce all along.

regardless they are guilty of leaving their kid unattended, neglecting them in all honesty and being responsible as a result for her dissappearance and everything that has happened since.

They should be accountable for it, it's their fault.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
To me there are two crucial pieces of circumstantial evidence, both concerning the man carrying a child sighting.

In the first, the McCann's friend Jane Tanner claimed to have seen a man carrying a child. However, from her evidence it was considered almost impossible that no one else would have seen this man as according to this his route would have taken him past a busy area with a number of other people in it and no one else saw him as she described it.

However, an Irish family also saw a man carrying a child at the time of the incident. They were shown pictures of Robert Murat but failed to identify him. However, when they got back to Ireland and were watching the news, they saw the man they had seen that night. They believe it was Gerry McCann.

I didn't know that either. In the last 2 pages, my thoughts have been swayed. That's why they don't do jury by forum I guess.
 
SWP's back said:
I think the lie gets easier with time mate, quite the opposite.

The cadaver dog is very compelling.
Do you really believe that the parents would fight to keep their daughters story in the media if they were guilty? I'm sorry but it just beggars belief.
 
mackenzie said:
SWP's back said:
I think the lie gets easier with time mate, quite the opposite.

The cadaver dog is very compelling.
Do you really believe that the parents would fight to keep their daughters story in the media if they were guilty? I'm sorry but it just beggars belief.

you've been given a ball, now run with it.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mackenzie said:
SWP's back said:
I think the lie gets easier with time mate, quite the opposite.

The cadaver dog is very compelling.
Do you really believe that the parents would fight to keep their daughters story in the media if they were guilty? I'm sorry but it just beggars belief.

you've been given a ball, now run with it.

don't know why but this made me laugh.
 
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JoeMercer'sWay said:
those videos show evidence that leads to doubt and questioning, and a "why haven't they been properly criminally investigated?", because they clearly haven't been, the police has been a farce all along.
Are you now specialising in straw man arguments or are you on your period?
 
Re: Maddie McCann Found

JoeMercer'sWay said:
Skashion said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
well I assume it does then.

cos it sounds to me like we'd never get anywhere in life with you going round saying "don't question it, she's innocent!".
Wherever have I ever said don't question? Everything should be questioned. I just continue to presume innocence (or non-existence) until proved otherwise. That's how logic dictates we do things.

those videos show evidence that leads to doubt and questioning, and a "why haven't they been properly criminally investigated?", because they clearly haven't been, the police has been a farce all along.

regardless they are guilty of leaving their kid unattended, neglecting them in all honesty and being responsible as a result for her dissappearance and everything that has happened since.

They should be accountable for it, it's their fault.
I agree!
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mackenzie said:
SWP's back said:
I think the lie gets easier with time mate, quite the opposite.

The cadaver dog is very compelling.
Do you really believe that the parents would fight to keep their daughters story in the media if they were guilty? I'm sorry but it just beggars belief.

you've been given a ball, now run with it.
Sorry, not having that.
It goes against everything we know about human nature, particularly where the loss of a child is concerned. How many years has it been now? Four? If either parent had been involved then you are crediting them with something completely off the scale.
 
mackenzie said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mackenzie said:
Do you really believe that the parents would fight to keep their daughters story in the media if they were guilty? I'm sorry but it just beggars belief.

you've been given a ball, now run with it.
Sorry, not having that.
It goes against everything we know about human nature, particularly where the loss of a child is concerned. How many years has it been now? Four? If either parent had been involved then you are crediting them with something completely off the scale.

I understand what you're saying but not everybody is like that and it really doesn't add up to me, sorry.
 
another generation said:
Is this to coincide with a new book being launched?
The mother can't win. She is vilified if she speaks out and vilified if she doesn't.
I saw that book as cathartic for her, and fully understand why she did it.
 
mackenzie said:
It goes against everything we know about human nature, particularly where the loss of a child is concerned. How many years has it been now? Four? If either parent had been involved then you are crediting them with something completely off the scale.
Oh come on Sharon. How many times have you watched the news about a child's disappearance and some member of the grieving family pleading for news of him/her have been found to be the ones responsible for their death?

They are clever people and knew the discovery of what some believe to be the truth would lead them (and their firends) to ruin. So they covered it up and the police failed to pin it on them, so they got away with it. Of course you'll maintain the lie under those circumstances.

And what better way to maintain it than pretending she's still alive.
 
Re: Maddie McCann Found

Skashion said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
those videos show evidence that leads to doubt and questioning, and a "why haven't they been properly criminally investigated?", because they clearly haven't been, the police has been a farce all along.
Are you now specialising in straw man arguments or are you on your period?

I'm saying there's doubt there, and I'm suspicious.
 
No. You wouldn't continue the lie. Not in this way anyway. You'd keep as low a profile as possible and disappear from the media.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
No. You wouldn't continue the lie. Not in this way anyway. You'd keep as low a profile as possible and disappear from the media.
Fair point but there's a whole media circus around them now plus they have been relatively quiet since the book launch.
See? They can't win can they.
 
mackenzie said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
No. You wouldn't continue the lie. Not in this way anyway. You'd keep as low a profile as possible and disappear from the media.
Fair point but there's a whole media circus around them now plus they have been relatively quiet since the book launch.
See? They can't win can they.

it's not about winning.
 

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