mac
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i would have hid in the wardrobe with a fcuking meat cleaver if i thought some looney was trying to get inmetalblue said:
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Madeleine McCann
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metalblue
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mac said:i would have hid in the wardrobe with a fcuking meat cleaver if i thought some looney was trying to get inmetalblue said:Ovo said:Well you'd think so wouldn't you.
Oh they were more diligent, in her words, it caused them to "check on the kids more frequently" the following night (the night Maddie went missing). Seems perfectly reasonable to me :/
You and everyone else mate....in fact I can't think of a single person on planet earth who would go out under such circumstances, except the McCanns. Seems like they thought it perfectly reasonable behaviour which raises two questions for me; they are lying or are really that fucking thick that they couldn't possibly have made up the whole maddie story...the last time I checked doctors have to be fairly bright so that leaves me with the lying.
stonerblue
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There are some very bitter people in htis thread.
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You going to elaborate at all?stonerblue said:There are some very bitter people in htis thread.
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No one is disputing the fact that they left them alone mate and it was a cunts trick,Still doesnt mean they had any part in the little un vanishing..metalblue said:Ovo said:MCFC BOB said:Surely if you thought someone had tried to kidnap your children the previous night, you'd be a little more diligent the night immediately after?
Well you'd think so wouldn't you.
Oh they were more diligent, in her words, it caused them to "check on the kids more frequently" the following night (the night Maddie went missing). Seems perfectly reasonable to me :/
Bojinov The Bull
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The parents killed her and have got away with it, they'll never be brought to justice now its been too long.
Pigeonho
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And you can say that so confidently how?Bojinov The Bull said:The parents killed her and have got away with it, they'll never be brought to justice now its been too long.
Prestwich_Blue
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Exactly. Even if you wanted to go out you'd take turns to go to the restaurant.MCFC BOB said:Surely if you thought someone had tried to kidnap your children the previous night, you'd be a little more diligent the night immediately after?
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mac said:i would have hid in the wardrobe with a fcuking meat cleaver if i thought some looney was trying to get inmetalblue said:Ovo said:Well you'd think so wouldn't you.
Oh they were more diligent, in her words, it caused them to "check on the kids more frequently" the following night (the night Maddie went missing). Seems perfectly reasonable to me :/
....so who was in the wardrobe then? mr or mrs?
I'm a bit reluctant to say that they killed her because I remember a few years ago a female solicitor being found guilty of murdering her 2 sons who died of cot death. It must have been terrible for her to lose her sons, be accused of killing them and suffer attacks in jail off other inmates. After the truth came out that she wasn't to blame, she was released from prison and died shortly after by simply giving up on life.
If it turns out that the McCanns are wholly or partly responsible for Maddies disappearance/death, my faith in humanity will drop to an all time low.
If it turns out that the McCanns are wholly or partly responsible for Maddies disappearance/death, my faith in humanity will drop to an all time low.
Prestwich_Blue
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The Sally Clark case was a completely different scenario. At her trial one so-called "expert" twisted statistics which had no validity to "prove" that the likelihood of both boys dying from natural causes was so low as to be virtually impossible. However the real figure was much, much lower. The pathologist who did the autopsy seemingly deliberately witheld the results of tests that would have proved beyond doubt that one of the boys died from natural causes. In that case the mother told the truth and the establishment lied.anymore than 2sheiks said:I'm a bit reluctant to say that they killed her because I remember a few years ago a female solicitor being found guilty of murdering her 2 sons who died of cot death. It must have been terrible for her to lose her sons, be accused of killing them and suffer attacks in jail off other inmates. After the truth came out that she wasn't to blame, she was released from prison and died shortly after by simply giving up on life.
If it turns out that the McCanns are wholly or partly responsible for Maddies disappearance/death, my faith in humanity will drop to an all time low.
Bojinov The Bull
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Pigeonho said:And you can say that so confidently how?Bojinov The Bull said:The parents killed her and have got away with it, they'll never be brought to justice now its been too long.
There are a million things that dont add up about it, the main one being if you returned to your flat and realised one of your children had been taken would you leave the other children alone again in the apartment and run off to alert others? The only reason you would do this is if you knew there was no immediate threat to them.
I believe Madeleine died because of their neglect, they left her in that apartment came back and realised she'd fallen or something and that with them being doctors it would destroy their careers and lives, so they tried to cover it up in the heat of the moment.
Watch this documentary, its excellent.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxGhlYTNisw[/youtube]
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anymore than 2sheiks said:I'm a bit reluctant to say that they killed her because I remember a few years ago a female solicitor being found guilty of murdering her 2 sons who died of cot death. It must have been terrible for her to lose her sons, be accused of killing them and suffer attacks in jail off other inmates. After the truth came out that she wasn't to blame, she was released from prison and died shortly after by simply giving up on life.
If it turns out that the McCanns are wholly or partly responsible for Maddies disappearance/death, my faith in humanity will drop to an all time low.
The McCanns are definitely pertly responsible of that there can be no doubt whatsoever
Ok I have to work this carefully in case I get banned for repeating information but for those who are unable to view the documentary or the reports here are a few key questions from both. THIS IS NOT MY OPINION BUT WHAT THE POLICE HAVE RELEASED SO MODS NO WARNINGS FOR REPEATING IT PLEASE!.
1. There were no visible signs of a break in the only finger prints found by the window where the parents claimed the person must have carried Maddy out of were the mothers.
2. Witness statements all conflicted infact none of what the couples said matched.
3. The lies so many times the couple have been caught lying first saying they waited 30 seconds to alert anyone then that changing to 40 minutes. Saying they had taken the long route to the apartment to check on the children then saying they had left the side door open and take the short route. Saying they had gone and checked each child carefully then changing that to they just peeked in through the door and saw shapes in the room so were satisfied that the children were safe. They took it turns the different couples.
4. "The man in the room", contrary to what many believe it was not the night before that the family said they suspected someone was watching the apartment. In interviews the family stated that the last time Mr McCann had checked on the children he had felt there was someone in the room. He said that he was certain he was not alone and that someone may have been hiding behind the door. Yet still he goes on to say he did not turn the light on in the room but peeped in and saw the shapes in the bed and returned to his friends? Now is this not odd?
5. Now the whole abduction case is based on the testimony of one of the friends Jane Tanner who claims to have seen a man carrying a child walking rapidly down the road. Now she first gave a very vague description of this man as she claimed it was dark and she could not see clearly. This changed completely when she saw a witness who was being questioned and she was certain it was him. When the witness was released she then with the help of police drew a picture of an entirely different man. She claims to have walked past Mr McCann and a friend that night yet both claimed they did not see her. The angles she claimed she saw the man from and for her to have walked past the two men were both impossible. As it was dark and the area not well lit the most likely scenario would be for Mr McCann to see her as she walked past but he not able to see anyone carrying anything. She claimed that when she saw this man, she walked past Gerry McCann and a friend, Jez Wilkins. But neither of them could remember seeing her.
6. The timeline on the sticker book. This was taken by the police from the family who had ripped Maddys sticker book and together with friends had written down a time line. Is this the first thing you do before you alert the police group together and rip your "missing" childs sticker book and write on the cover? Time line is unchanged and below.
Timeline 1 (as per sticker book)
8:45. pm
Matt returns 9.00-9.05 - listened at all 3
- all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well
? did he check
9.20/5 - Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child
9.30 - Russ. Ella Matt check all 3
9.35 - Matt check see twins
9.50 - Russ returns
9.55 - Kate realised Madeleine
10pm - Alarm raised
Timeline 2 (as per sticker book above)
8.45pm. all assembled at poolside for food
9.00pm. Matt Oldfield listens at all 3 windows 5A, B, D ALL shutters down
9:15pm Gerry McCann looks at room A ? Door open to bedroom
9:20pm Jane Tanner checks 5D - [sees stranger walking carrying a child]
9.30 Russell O'Brien in 5D. Poorly daughter
l
9.55pm
10:00pm. Alarm raised after Kate
Gerald
7. Miss Tanner "swears by everything sacred" that it was Mr Robert Murat who she saw walking with the baby. After the investigation he is released as his where abouts are confirmed and he is cleared. He releases a statement "Basically, I'm just an ordinary, straightforward guy who's the victim of the biggest f***-up on this planet - if you'll excuse the language."
- Robert Murat talking to David Jones, Daily Mail, 02 June 2008.
8. The other witnesses an Irish man who had come forward stated he had seen a man who looked like Mr McCann carrying a baby close to his chest and walking rapidly towards the beach. He had called again when he saw the family exit the plan on the return to England stating that he was certain the father was the man he saw as he was carrying his other child in the same manner as he exited the plane.
9. Kates father confirms to police that he had seen her sedate the children before using drugs so that they sleep at night and the parents can go out.
10. The police dogs the DNA and the scent of blood and death. Dogs used to solve over 200 cases including some high profile ones smelt the scent of death in the living room in a closet in the parents bedroom and in a car they had had rented almost a month later. Traces of blood which were confirmed as Maddys were also found. Also a witness said that every time he passed the parents rental car day or night it had the boot open. He gave a statement to police. Who leaves a car with the boot open outside for day? The car was rental hutch back.
11. The lack of searching, while the family travel round the world raising millions talking to Oprah meeting the Pope the question some are asking is when are they actually looking for their missing child?
There are other questions but I will stop here for now.
1. There were no visible signs of a break in the only finger prints found by the window where the parents claimed the person must have carried Maddy out of were the mothers.
2. Witness statements all conflicted infact none of what the couples said matched.
3. The lies so many times the couple have been caught lying first saying they waited 30 seconds to alert anyone then that changing to 40 minutes. Saying they had taken the long route to the apartment to check on the children then saying they had left the side door open and take the short route. Saying they had gone and checked each child carefully then changing that to they just peeked in through the door and saw shapes in the room so were satisfied that the children were safe. They took it turns the different couples.
4. "The man in the room", contrary to what many believe it was not the night before that the family said they suspected someone was watching the apartment. In interviews the family stated that the last time Mr McCann had checked on the children he had felt there was someone in the room. He said that he was certain he was not alone and that someone may have been hiding behind the door. Yet still he goes on to say he did not turn the light on in the room but peeped in and saw the shapes in the bed and returned to his friends? Now is this not odd?
5. Now the whole abduction case is based on the testimony of one of the friends Jane Tanner who claims to have seen a man carrying a child walking rapidly down the road. Now she first gave a very vague description of this man as she claimed it was dark and she could not see clearly. This changed completely when she saw a witness who was being questioned and she was certain it was him. When the witness was released she then with the help of police drew a picture of an entirely different man. She claims to have walked past Mr McCann and a friend that night yet both claimed they did not see her. The angles she claimed she saw the man from and for her to have walked past the two men were both impossible. As it was dark and the area not well lit the most likely scenario would be for Mr McCann to see her as she walked past but he not able to see anyone carrying anything. She claimed that when she saw this man, she walked past Gerry McCann and a friend, Jez Wilkins. But neither of them could remember seeing her.
6. The timeline on the sticker book. This was taken by the police from the family who had ripped Maddys sticker book and together with friends had written down a time line. Is this the first thing you do before you alert the police group together and rip your "missing" childs sticker book and write on the cover? Time line is unchanged and below.
Timeline 1 (as per sticker book)
8:45. pm
Matt returns 9.00-9.05 - listened at all 3
- all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well
? did he check
9.20/5 - Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child
9.30 - Russ. Ella Matt check all 3
9.35 - Matt check see twins
9.50 - Russ returns
9.55 - Kate realised Madeleine
10pm - Alarm raised
Timeline 2 (as per sticker book above)
8.45pm. all assembled at poolside for food
9.00pm. Matt Oldfield listens at all 3 windows 5A, B, D ALL shutters down
9:15pm Gerry McCann looks at room A ? Door open to bedroom
9:20pm Jane Tanner checks 5D - [sees stranger walking carrying a child]
9.30 Russell O'Brien in 5D. Poorly daughter
l
9.55pm
10:00pm. Alarm raised after Kate
Gerald
7. Miss Tanner "swears by everything sacred" that it was Mr Robert Murat who she saw walking with the baby. After the investigation he is released as his where abouts are confirmed and he is cleared. He releases a statement "Basically, I'm just an ordinary, straightforward guy who's the victim of the biggest f***-up on this planet - if you'll excuse the language."
- Robert Murat talking to David Jones, Daily Mail, 02 June 2008.
8. The other witnesses an Irish man who had come forward stated he had seen a man who looked like Mr McCann carrying a baby close to his chest and walking rapidly towards the beach. He had called again when he saw the family exit the plan on the return to England stating that he was certain the father was the man he saw as he was carrying his other child in the same manner as he exited the plane.
9. Kates father confirms to police that he had seen her sedate the children before using drugs so that they sleep at night and the parents can go out.
10. The police dogs the DNA and the scent of blood and death. Dogs used to solve over 200 cases including some high profile ones smelt the scent of death in the living room in a closet in the parents bedroom and in a car they had had rented almost a month later. Traces of blood which were confirmed as Maddys were also found. Also a witness said that every time he passed the parents rental car day or night it had the boot open. He gave a statement to police. Who leaves a car with the boot open outside for day? The car was rental hutch back.
11. The lack of searching, while the family travel round the world raising millions talking to Oprah meeting the Pope the question some are asking is when are they actually looking for their missing child?
There are other questions but I will stop here for now.
anymore than 2sheiks said:Some of this stuff you mention, Didactic, must have been discredited or disproved. If half of that was true they'd have been charged.
No this is all truthful and you can research it yourself.
stonerblue
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didactic said:When you have time cookie watch thisThe cookie monster said:So how come they let them go then?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB__7F-Ghpo[/youtube]
It is by one of the investigating policemen who was directly involved with the case. You will get all the answers you need and it is up to you to decide what to believe.
Remember the McCanns sued him and banned this but the Portuguese government allowed it to be published over there.
That must be the same Amaral who admitted the police (his) investigation was shit from the start, who was then removed from the case, and is now making lots of cash from his book and interview money?
The report I read in the paper today by a British detective shows that they are not much better. He says that "she was probably taken by a couple who could speak English but may also be portuguese or have taken her to a country thats speaks portuguese like brazil or she might have had her hair dyed or cut or be dressed as a boy or to be honest, she could be anywhere". Fucking hell..........well done sherlock. That was money well spent.stonerblue said:didactic said:When you have time cookie watch thisThe cookie monster said:So how come they let them go then?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB__7F-Ghpo[/youtube]
It is by one of the investigating policemen who was directly involved with the case. You will get all the answers you need and it is up to you to decide what to believe.
Remember the McCanns sued him and banned this but the Portuguese government allowed it to be published over there.
That must be the same Amaral who admitted the police (his) investigation was shit from the start, who was then removed from the case, and is now making lots of cash from his book and interview money?
Have'nt read the whole thread but i remember seeing a programme done by that Portuguese copper, he had the dog with him that could pinpoint where a body(dead) had been stored, the dog constantly went to a wardrobe in the bedroom and by all accounts the dog had a 100% success rate. There is a name for aroma or smell or something where a dead body has been, radiga or something from what i remember.
EDIT: I just flicked on the vid above and yes, that was the copper that i seen. All very strange.
EDIT: I just flicked on the vid above and yes, that was the copper that i seen. All very strange.
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There have been lots of opinions posted about this sad case and perhaps we'll never know the actual truth as there seems to have been various accounts by various people which appear to contradict others. People can also point to various pieces of evidence but in truth, they're just going round in circles. For me, the most important issue remains unsolved. Why has no one in this thread, yet suggested that they'd smash Kate McCann's back doors in?