Madeleine McCann

mackenzie said:
Bristol-Blue said:
mackenzie said:
Not really, it depends more on how the scene had been previously contaminated and made irrelevant by several factors.
The sniffer dog proved nothing.

firstly, whoever smelt it dealt it, so IT WAS THE DAWWWWWWWGS. motherfuckers who'd have thought it?

secondly, do explain about these factors? have you seen the dogs pick out their rental car in the car park??? imo that is evidence enough alone! just wish everything could be pieced together.

You mean the rental car that the police reckon the mccanns lugged the decomposing body (because that is what it would have been by then) of their child into?
Think about it.
Not sure what you mean by that. The evidence of the Irish family suggests they moved the body very quickly, possibly the same night.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
Bristol-Blue said:
firstly, whoever smelt it dealt it, so IT WAS THE DAWWWWWWWGS. motherfuckers who'd have thought it?

secondly, do explain about these factors? have you seen the dogs pick out their rental car in the car park??? imo that is evidence enough alone! just wish everything could be pieced together.

You mean the rental car that the police reckon the mccanns lugged the decomposing body (because that is what it would have been by then) of their child into?
Think about it.
Not sure what you mean by that. The evidence of the Irish family suggests they moved the body very quickly, possibly the same night.

see i'd agree with this but then why would people say they saw gerry mccan running around the town (not literally waving maddies dead body about) and not driving away quick as fook? mackenzie help us out :(
 
Bristol-Blue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
You mean the rental car that the police reckon the mccanns lugged the decomposing body (because that is what it would have been by then) of their child into?
Think about it.
Not sure what you mean by that. The evidence of the Irish family suggests they moved the body very quickly, possibly the same night.

see i'd agree with this but then why would people say they saw gerry mccan running around the town (not literally waving maddies dead body about) and not driving away quick as fook? mackenzie help us out :(
I reckon he put the body there but one or more of their friends actually disposed of it either that night or the next day. Gerry would have been too conspicuous by his absence. Plenty of time to leave a powerful scent for the dogs.
 
Bristol-Blue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
You mean the rental car that the police reckon the mccanns lugged the decomposing body (because that is what it would have been by then) of their child into?
Think about it.
Not sure what you mean by that. The evidence of the Irish family suggests they moved the body very quickly, possibly the same night.

see i'd agree with this but then why would people say they saw gerry mccan running around the town (not literally waving maddies dead body about) and not driving away quick as fook? mackenzie help us out :(


Dump the body, go round pretending to look for her in public places, then go back and bury it whilst claiming you're looking for her or whatever.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Bristol-Blue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Not sure what you mean by that. The evidence of the Irish family suggests they moved the body very quickly, possibly the same night.

see i'd agree with this but then why would people say they saw gerry mccan running around the town (not literally waving maddies dead body about) and not driving away quick as fook? mackenzie help us out :(
I reckon he put the body there but one or more of their friends actually disposed of it either that night or the next day. Gerry would have been too conspicuous by his absence. Plenty of time to leave a powerful scent for the dogs.

what you mean by this bit? i think JMW's idea might have worked for them. either way its really interesting.
 
Bristol-Blue said:
mackenzie said:
Bristol-Blue said:
firstly, whoever smelt it dealt it, so IT WAS THE DAWWWWWWWGS. motherfuckers who'd have thought it?

secondly, do explain about these factors? have you seen the dogs pick out their rental car in the car park??? imo that is evidence enough alone! just wish everything could be pieced together.

You mean the rental car that the police reckon the mccanns lugged the decomposing body (because that is what it would have been by then) of their child into?
Think about it.

seems pretty logical to me

1) the sniffer dogs are trained to smell dead bodies

2) they are something ridiculous like 99% accurate

3) they were let loose in a large car park and went mental around the boot of the mccans rental car

although you will no doubt tell me different?
As far as I can remember the mccanns got the rental car in question some time after maddies disappearance. If the sniffer dogs were right then that means the parents were complicit in the death of their child, hid the body for some time and then managed to sneak the, by now, decomposing body with all the bodily fluids and DNA evidence that would involve into a rental car. Right under the noses of the local police.

They were incompetent but they weren't bleeding useless.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Bristol-Blue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Not sure what you mean by that. The evidence of the Irish family suggests they moved the body very quickly, possibly the same night.

see i'd agree with this but then why would people say they saw gerry mccan running around the town (not literally waving maddies dead body about) and not driving away quick as fook? mackenzie help us out :(
I reckon he put the body there but one or more of their friends actually disposed of it either that night or the next day. Gerry would have been too conspicuous by his absence. Plenty of time to leave a powerful scent for the dogs.
And what do you base that on?
The evidence of any family witnessing someone walking, quite openly, up a street with a dead child doesn't ring true. Especially as the person with the child did
Nothing really to alert them at the time.
 
mackenzie said:
As far as I can remember the mccanns got the rental car in question some time after maddies disappearance. If the sniffer dogs were right then that means the parents were complicit in the death of their child, hid the body for some time and then managed to sneak the, by now, decomposing body with all the bodily fluids and DNA evidence that would involve into a rental car. Right under the noses of the local police.

They were incompetent but they weren't bleeding useless.
Here's a press report on the hire car.
The car was hired the day before the McCanns travelled to Rome to be blessed by the Pope, at a time when they would not personally need a vehicle. But the family friend explained that the car was always intended for use by a number of people around the couple in Praia da Luz, especially while the McCanns were away on their tour to gain publicity for the Find Maddie campaign.

Mrs McCann has vehemently denied that she was responsible for the trace of blood, swearing at officers because she was so angry and saying: "There is no way." Kate's mother said any evidence against her daughter must have been "planted".

Last week family spokesman Justine McGuinness described the allegations over the hire car as "mad and ridiculous". However she was unable to comment yesterday on who had picked up the car from Faro and who, other than Gerry and Kate, had access to it.

Even more clear from that report that they moved the body quickly the same night and hid it then, when attention was on the McCanns in Rome, someone else moved the body and disposed of it finally in that car.
 
MCFC BOB said:
How come the McCanns have more publicity than any other family with a missing child?
They don't.
Read the accounts of the Moors Murders. Winnie is still looking for her child.
 
mackenzie said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Bristol-Blue said:
see i'd agree with this but then why would people say they saw gerry mccan running around the town (not literally waving maddies dead body about) and not driving away quick as fook? mackenzie help us out :(
I reckon he put the body there but one or more of their friends actually disposed of it either that night or the next day. Gerry would have been too conspicuous by his absence. Plenty of time to leave a powerful scent for the dogs.
And what do you base that on?
The evidence of any family witnessing someone walking, quite openly, up a street with a dead child doesn't ring true. Especially as the person with the child did nothing really to alert them at the time.
The Smiths (the Irish family) were adamant it was McCann they saw carrying a child. They didn't know who it was at the time however; they only twigged once they got back to Ireland and saw Gerry McCann on TV. So they weren't to know at the time (if it was him carrying Maddie) that she was dead. They reported he was carrying her as you might carry a child who had fallen asleep.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
As far as I can remember the mccanns got the rental car in question some time after maddies disappearance. If the sniffer dogs were right then that means the parents were complicit in the death of their child, hid the body for some time and then managed to sneak the, by now, decomposing body with all the bodily fluids and DNA evidence that would involve into a rental car. Right under the noses of the local police.

They were incompetent but they weren't bleeding useless.
Here's a press report on the hire car.
The car was hired the day before the McCanns travelled to Rome to be blessed by the Pope, at a time when they would not personally need a vehicle. But the family friend explained that the car was always intended for use by a number of people around the couple in Praia da Luz, especially while the McCanns were away on their tour to gain publicity for the Find Maddie campaign.

Mrs McCann has vehemently denied that she was responsible for the trace of blood, swearing at officers because she was so angry and saying: "There is no way." Kate's mother said any evidence against her daughter must have been "planted".

Last week family spokesman Justine McGuinness described the allegations over the hire car as "mad and ridiculous". However she was unable to comment yesterday on who had picked up the car from Faro and who, other than Gerry and Kate, had access to it.

Even more clear from that report that they moved the body quickly the same night and hid it then, when attention was on the McCanns in Rome, someone else moved the body and disposed of it finally in that car.
Ok, so how long had maddie been dead by then? How 'tidy' would that have been? Anyway, I thought you reckoned Gerry threw the body in the ocean or something, if I recall your accounts about the irish witnesess.


And do you really think such a gruesome task could have been done without any of the participants cracking up by
Now? Seriously??
 
mackenzie said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
As far as I can remember the mccanns got the rental car in question some time after maddies disappearance. If the sniffer dogs were right then that means the parents were complicit in the death of their child, hid the body for some time and then managed to sneak the, by now, decomposing body with all the bodily fluids and DNA evidence that would involve into a rental car. Right under the noses of the local police.

They were incompetent but they weren't bleeding useless.
Here's a press report on the hire car.
The car was hired the day before the McCanns travelled to Rome to be blessed by the Pope, at a time when they would not personally need a vehicle. But the family friend explained that the car was always intended for use by a number of people around the couple in Praia da Luz, especially while the McCanns were away on their tour to gain publicity for the Find Maddie campaign.

Mrs McCann has vehemently denied that she was responsible for the trace of blood, swearing at officers because she was so angry and saying: "There is no way." Kate's mother said any evidence against her daughter must have been "planted".

Last week family spokesman Justine McGuinness described the allegations over the hire car as "mad and ridiculous". However she was unable to comment yesterday on who had picked up the car from Faro and who, other than Gerry and Kate, had access to it.

Even more clear from that report that they moved the body quickly the same night and hid it then, when attention was on the McCanns in Rome, someone else moved the body and disposed of it finally in that car.
Ok, so how long had maddie been dead by then? How 'tidy' would that have been? Anyway, I thought you reckoned Gerry threw the body in the ocean or something, if I recall your accounts about the irish witnesess.


And do you really think such a gruesome task could have been done without any of the participants cracking up by
Now? Seriously??
She'd been dead for nearly 4 weeks I guess. I'm only guessing that's what happened but even if the sniffer dogs did get it wrong (and there's a small chance they did) it doesn't change the outcome.

I am a little surprised that one of the group hasn't cracked but you have to remember they're all doctors and all of them would be absolutely ruined if the truth (as I see it) came out. Doctors are fairly amoral in my experience and will happily lie to protect a colleague.
 
mackenzie said:
SWP's back said:
I think the lie gets easier with time mate, quite the opposite.

The cadaver dog is very compelling.
Do you really believe that the parents would fight to keep their daughters story in the media if they were guilty? I'm sorry but it just beggars belief.

Absolutely I do yes. To think otherwise beggars belief if you ask me. If they were guilty they would do it for the exact reason on your post.

That's not to say they did do it, but it would be what someone may do if they did do it.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
mackenzie said:
MCFC BOB said:
How come the McCanns have more publicity than any other family with a missing child?
They don't.
Read the accounts of the Moors Murders. Winnie is still looking for her child.
Correction - she's looking for his body. She knows full well he is dead.
Well, according to you so do the mccanns.
See how that is a comparison though that makes sense? Albeit in a roundabout way? Each parent is looking for closure, they just have different shit to deal with.
 

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