Maggie Thatcher

BoyBlue_1985 said:
The thatcher milk snatcher thing has always been something that stuck in my mind and made me wonder what the deal was with it all, so I read in to it and actual history paints a different picture. Harold Wilson's government stopped milk for secondary schools in 1968 and then she was against the removal of free milk to children but was forced to do it by the treasury and Heath.
Not very interesting really but funny how she will forever be painted in a light that actually wasn't her even though people have enough sticks to beat her with the milk thing isn't really one at all

The stuff was fucking disgusting anyway. Whoever was responsible for scrapping it was right as far as I'm concerned.
 
smudgedj said:
EalingBlue2 said:
stony said:
A couple of facts for you. The captain of the Belgrano is on record as saying his ship was a threat and a legitimate target.
The sinking of the Belgrano had the secondary effect of keeping the Argentine navy, including their aircraft carrier out of the war. As soon as they realised we had hunter-killer subs in the South Atlantic, they shit themselves and turned for port.
This no doubt had an effect on the outcome. If they had been able to operate carrier-based aircraft from closer to the islands, the outcome of the war could have been very different.
Your assumption that the sinking prolonged the war is just sheer bullshit. There was no way they would have left the Falklands under their own steam and there is no way the British government would accept any form of peace while foreign soldiers occupied British territory.
I hate Thatcher and everything she stood for, but you are letting your hatred of her blind you and you're spouting the biggest pile of bollocks I've seen on here in a while.

The captain said on record that it had been a threat as it had been attempting earlier a pincer movement but due to the other ships and the weather it had withdrawn and when shot it was not actively a threat. You are right like Hiroshima it could have been an evil that saved far greater evil that will never be known. As for the war once it started it had to be finished and I don't begrudge that. But it doesn't mean individual aspect can't be questioned .

What is fact is that a number of South American governments led by Peru had put a peace plan together that day that Argentina was prepared to discuss but after Tempe Belgrano they refused. What is not known conclusively is whether Thatcher knew of the plan immediately and whether the Argentinians would have just talked and done nothing

Nonsense.

A message was sent on the 23rd April that the entire South Atlantic was an ´operational theater´The Belgrano was a threat and therefore a legitimate target. No matter which direction the ship was travelling.
All this will no doubt be countered by more contrived nonsense, driven by an almost maniacal hatred of Thatcher. I too, thought her a ****, but a necessary ****, with the qualities necessary at a fucking dreadful time, but some folk will never move from entrenched positions, and start to drown as a result.
 
Mustard Dave said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
The thatcher milk snatcher thing has always been something that stuck in my mind and made me wonder what the deal was with it all, so I read in to it and actual history paints a different picture. Harold Wilson's government stopped milk for secondary schools in 1968 and then she was against the removal of free milk to children but was forced to do it by the treasury and Heath.
Not very interesting really but funny how she will forever be painted in a light that actually wasn't her even though people have enough sticks to beat her with the milk thing isn't really one at all

The stuff was fucking disgusting anyway. Whoever was responsible for scrapping it was right as far as I'm concerned.
Correct ,Dave. It was fine if you got it first thing in the morning but more often than not we'd get it after it had been sat around all day. It was like drinking it straight out of the fuckin udder.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Mustard Dave said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
The thatcher milk snatcher thing has always been something that stuck in my mind and made me wonder what the deal was with it all, so I read in to it and actual history paints a different picture. Harold Wilson's government stopped milk for secondary schools in 1968 and then she was against the removal of free milk to children but was forced to do it by the treasury and Heath.
Not very interesting really but funny how she will forever be painted in a light that actually wasn't her even though people have enough sticks to beat her with the milk thing isn't really one at all

The stuff was fucking disgusting anyway. Whoever was responsible for scrapping it was right as far as I'm concerned.
Correct ,Dave. It was fine if you got it first thing in the morning but more often than not we'd get it after it had been sat around all day. It was like drinking it straight out of the fuckin udder.

Correct , it was rank.

When they scrapped it my Mum said , if you can't afford milk don't have kids.
 
Lucky13 said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
Mustard Dave said:
The stuff was fucking disgusting anyway. Whoever was responsible for scrapping it was right as far as I'm concerned.
Correct ,Dave. It was fine if you got it first thing in the morning but more often than not we'd get it after it had been sat around all day. It was like drinking it straight out of the fuckin udder.

Correct , it was rank.

When they scrapped it my Mum said , if you can't afford milk don't have kids.

Fuck me - now that's what I call a manifesto.
 
chabal said:
Lucky13 said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
Correct ,Dave. It was fine if you got it first thing in the morning but more often than not we'd get it after it had been sat around all day. It was like drinking it straight out of the fuckin udder.

Correct , it was rank.

When they scrapped it my Mum said , if you can't afford milk don't have kids.

Fuck me - now that's what I call a manifesto.
The word 'Mum' gives it away !
 
Whenever I see a Thatcher thread, the first think I think is 'fucking hell, has she arisen?"
They should have staked the woman and burned her corpse.
 
The milk was mixed, still think that it was a good thing especially in poor areas that all children got a balanced meat and two veg meal and a milk.

Not sure about your schools but in the winter or in a cool day the milk could be great (especially when you got tetrapak milk once in a blue moon) however some days it got left in the sun for hours and came in tepid and on the turn in which case I agree it could be grim.

Milk snatching was a minor crime compared to the economic and social destruction of large parts of the community!
 
EalingBlue2 said:
The milk was mixed, still think that it was a good thing especially in poor areas that all children got a balanced meat and two veg meal and a milk.

Not sure about your schools but in the winter or in a cool day the milk could be great (especially when you got tetrapak milk once in a blue moon) however some days it got left in the sun for hours and came in tepid and on the turn in which case I agree it could be grim.

Milk snatching was a minor crime compared to the economic and social destruction of large parts of the community!
I'm quite happy to know that my milk was snatched so that we could boots on Goose Green.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
The milk was mixed, still think that it was a good thing especially in poor areas that all children got a balanced meat and two veg meal and a milk.

Not sure about your schools but in the winter or in a cool day the milk could be great (especially when you got tetrapak milk once in a blue moon) however some days it got left in the sun for hours and came in tepid and on the turn in which case I agree it could be grim.

Milk snatching was a minor crime compared to the economic and social destruction of large parts of the community!

Lwnj advocates the State feeds your children.
 

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