Makerfield By - Election. Burnham v Reform

yeseye said:
Seems like another nonsense rule for the establishment .

It’s no wonder these people are so out of touch with the real world.
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It’s a weird one, isn’t it. Will the people of Greater Manchester be saying ‘Welcome Back, Andy’ should he lose it it, or will it be ‘Cheeky deserting bastard’ for him turning his back on the electorate?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
It’s a weird one, isn’t it. Will the people of Greater Manchester be saying ‘Welcome Back, Andy’ should he lose it it, or will it be ‘Cheeky deserting bastard’ for him turning his back on the electorate?
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The people of Greater Manchester will have no option other then to suck it up unfortunately.

I don’t think the Wigan folk will be daft enough to vote him in for a fortnight tbh..
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
It’s a weird one, isn’t it. Will the people of Greater Manchester be saying ‘Welcome Back, Andy’ should he lose it it, or will it be ‘Cheeky deserting bastard’ for him turning his back on the electorate?
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It’s akin to applying for a new job; you don’t lose the one you’re currently employed to do.
 
Ho Chi Man City said:
Fair enough but the leader (or in this case) a potential leader of a party would attract a higher % of the vote, kind of lifts the profile of an area.

However, I wouldn’t follow that criteria as the MP who represents the constituency where I live is Angela Rayner. During last weeks elections only the house she owns had “Vote Labour” posters on it, non of her neighbours showed any support which tells a story in an area that’s been Labour for as long as I remember.
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Yep, I was born there but I wouldn't vote for her or Starmer in a million years.

It will be hilarious if Burnham risks everything on this and fails.
 
yeseye said:
The people of Greater Manchester will have no option other then to suck it up unfortunately.

I don’t think the Wigan folk will be daft enough to vote him in for a fortnight tbh..
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Oh, I don’t know. If Burnham campaigns on re-industrialisation and jobs for the area, the old Labour DNA will be awakened. However, if Reform campaign on him wanting back in the EU and open borders, that will awaken other areas of their psyche and cause huge conflict in the electorate. And that’s where the risk comes, and if he did lose, could he really keep his job as GMM?

That then brings the issue of cost. It’s going to be around £200 grand for the Makerfield election and approximately £4 mil for the mayoral one. Not to mention the higher cost to the country with higher borrowing costs while this all plays out.

There is a huge cost to all, I’m just hoping this gamble is worth it.
 
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Looks like Streeting (and Reform obviously) will be returning to the Brexit war. Burnham, as a Remainer and Rejoiner, will be put on the spot in a very strong Leave area. Be interesting how he handles this, in the General Election Sunak forced Starmer and Reeves to promise no personal tax rises. It's turning into one of those great Shakespearean plots, not only a next Prime Minister subplot but also a Rejoin subplot.
 
Palerider said:
Looks like Streeting (and Reform obviously) will be returning to the Brexit war. Burnham, as a Remainer and Rejoiner, will be put on the spot in a very strong Leave area. Be interesting how he handles this, in the General Election Sunak forced Starmer and Reeves to promise no personal tax rises. It's turning into one of those great Shakespearean plots, not only a next Prime Minister subplot but also a Rejoin subplot.
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Times also reporting Ange turned down the Health Secretary job, not wanting to help Starmer with the left wing of the party and signalling she thinks this a dying government. Just watched a new TV Ad for a Home Removals company featuring 10, Downing St - they are closing in!
 
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