Man City vs Reading - Post Match Discussion

[Rammy Blue]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

Not sure if you were at the game mate however the amount of times we had all our players sucked into the middle was ridiculous - hate to reference the scum however Valencia is the perfect example of a player that stays wide and then can be played in where he runs at the full back with pace, commits him and can get to the byline or draw the foul.

We are desperate for pace/width.

 

[Chris in London]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

 

[oakiecokie]

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Think back to Shreks second goal against us,exactly as you say.

 

[grim up north]

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Not arguing that point. How do you get in behind a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 defenders<br /><br />-- Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:01 pm --<br /><br />

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Think back to Shreks second goal against us,exactly as you say.

we dont park the bus at home

 

[burnagelane]

City are depending altogether on the outstanding skills of their players to get by.

There is no game plan.

They have to fiddle with the ball around 40 metrs out, while the opposition gets eight or nine back. They won't shoot. Zabaleta and Tevez have shown what happens when you do actually shoot.

 

[City_Sean]

@grimupnorth

like ive said mate, when a team defends deep, if you have pace, you can break them down, like again i hate referencing the rags but how many teams do the same at their place and they break them down. rekik had acres of space that just wasnt picked out.

 

[Chris in London]

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Not arguing that point. How do you get in behind a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 defenders

They didnt defend touch line to touch line though, so it leaves room on the flanks to get the ball behind them. We had several opportunities at the corner of the box where we could have played an overlapping full back in behind Reading. Instead most times we turned back inside and ran into trouble.
I thought Sinclair had been specifically brought on to add width.

 

[Rammy Blue]

I thought Sinclair had been specifically brought on to add width.

No frigging good though if we play him on wrong wing!

 

[City_Sean]

City are depending altogether on the outstanding skills of their players to get by.

There is no game plan.

They have to fiddle with the ball around 40 metrs out, while the opposition gets eight or nine back. They won't shoot. Zabaleta and Tevez have shown what happens when you do actually shoot.

i agree mate, this season we are relying on individual brilliance rather than a good team move to break the team down. at the moment we are turning into arsenal with this tippy tappy style that enables teams to defend easily against us.

 

[Marvin]

@grimupnorth

like ive said mate, when a team defends deep, if you have pace, you can break them down, like again i hate referencing the rags but how many teams do the same at their place and they break them down. rekik had acres of space that just wasnt picked out.

he wasn't picked out because he's a central defender playing at left back and doesn't have the ability of a Clichy, Kolarov, Maicon or Richards

We struggled for width and that's why Sinclair came on but the team more or less picked itself (assuming Clichy and Milner weren't fully fit)