Man City vs Reading - Post Match Discussion

[lionheart]

I watched it with several neutrals (including a couple of rags) who didn't see anything wrong with it. The two pundits on AD Sports (can't for the life of me remember who they were this weekend) didn't think it was a foul either. I presume they were being honest, as why would they possibly lie?

Ah, but you could of course, be being dishonest about all of that. ;-)

You've got me there!

I also watched the game on AD Sports. Both pundits agreed that it was no foul. I think one may have been Andy Townsend and other some Scotsman, but not 100% sure. On first watching, I was waiting for the flag to go up. On second, third and fourth watching, I feel that the defender was at fault. If Bazza hadn't scored, it should have been a penalty for a "making a back" offence. Thank God it wasn't disallowed coz I doubt we would have scored from a penalty the way we were playing.

 

[Marvin]

Ah, but you could of course, be being dishonest about all of that. ;-)

You've got me there!

I also watched the game on AD Sports. Both pundits agreed that it was no foul. I think one may have been Andy Townsend and other some Scotsman, but not 100% sure. On first watching, I was waiting for the flag to go up. On second, third and fourth watching, I feel that the defender was at fault. If Bazza hadn't scored, it should have been a penalty for a "making a back" offence. Thank God it wasn't disallowed coz I doubt we would have scored from a penalty the way we were playing.

It was so frustrating, it felt a bit like the QPR game. I agree it was a perfect goal by Barry

Didn't feel we played that bad. We created enough chances to win the game and had loads of shots on goal, but they were mostly off target

 

[urbanblue67]

everything was wrong from the off, the team selection was a piss take out of reading and it nearly cost us.

mancini please note.

THERE ARE NO EASY GAMES IN THE PREM.

have to agree with you there/ "no easy games" ;-) 3 points all the same so hope Mancini learns from today , we need to break teams like reading quick in the game

 

[Marvin]

Seen a few comments critical of the team selection

Yet Aguero and Tevez are surely the best starting two, and if players aren't fully fit the options aren't that great?

There may have been two starters who would have made a huge difference: Clichy and Milner but I don't know if they are fully fit. Both have been injured. Surely they'd have played if the manager thought they could handle the Christmas fixtures

 

[jonmcity]

Tevez is a great player but he is not scoring enough goals. Sergio also needs to be more clinical. In my opinion we needed to start with Edin and play wider, put some crosses in to test their defence at an early stage in the game. We got away with it, but hope we learn from the game.

 

[Chris in London]

Tevez is a great player but he is not scoring enough goals. Sergio also needs to be more clinical. In my opinion we needed to start with Edin and play wider, put some crosses in to test their defence at an early stage in the game. We got away with it, but hope we learn from the game.

I'd like see us start with Dzeko up front and Kolarov and Maicon bombing on down the wings. We did try it against Madrid at home which was probably the wrong game to experiment, but against Reading yesterday we were crying out for wide players to get behind them

 

[tonea2003]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

 

[City_Sean]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

 

[Utter bobbins]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

 

[City_Sean]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

down the flanks, didnt you see the space rekik had on the left, it was crying out for proper width.

 

[Rammy Blue]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

Not sure if you were at the game mate however the amount of times we had all our players sucked into the middle was ridiculous - hate to reference the scum however Valencia is the perfect example of a player that stays wide and then can be played in where he runs at the full back with pace, commits him and can get to the byline or draw the foul.

We are desperate for pace/width.

 

[Chris in London]

no width, build up play too slow against a flat back 8

a touch of complacency??

but we got away it, but we must learn from it

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

 

[oakiecokie]

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Think back to Shreks second goal against us,exactly as you say.

 

[Utter bobbins]

i agree completely, its a game where you need width and pace and bobby stubbornly refused to change this, i fucking hate it when silva tevez aguero play as a front 3, because if im honest it gives us no width.

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Not arguing that point. How do you get in behind a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 defenders<br /><br />-- Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:01 pm --<br /><br />

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Think back to Shreks second goal against us,exactly as you say.

we dont park the bus at home

 

[burnagelane]

City are depending altogether on the outstanding skills of their players to get by.

There is no game plan.

They have to fiddle with the ball around 40 metrs out, while the opposition gets eight or nine back. They won't shoot. Zabaleta and Tevez have shown what happens when you do actually shoot.

 

[City_Sean]

@grimupnorth

like ive said mate, when a team defends deep, if you have pace, you can break them down, like again i hate referencing the rags but how many teams do the same at their place and they break them down. rekik had acres of space that just wasnt picked out.

 

[Chris in London]

Please explain where the width and pace go against a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 players

If you get wide and behind them (with pace) you turn defenders and get them facing their own goal. A ball whipped across the face of the goal when you are running back towards your own goal is very very difficult to defend - you do very well to avoid giving away a corner, and there is a good chance of an own goal as well as a blue shirt bing on the end.

When you try and play through that many players it is very difficult because there are so many of them in a small space - very little room to thread through balls for runners

Not arguing that point. How do you get in behind a team defending the 18 yard box with 8 defenders

They didnt defend touch line to touch line though, so it leaves room on the flanks to get the ball behind them. We had several opportunities at the corner of the box where we could have played an overlapping full back in behind Reading. Instead most times we turned back inside and ran into trouble.
I thought Sinclair had been specifically brought on to add width.

 

[Rammy Blue]

I thought Sinclair had been specifically brought on to add width.

No frigging good though if we play him on wrong wing!

 

[City_Sean]

City are depending altogether on the outstanding skills of their players to get by.

There is no game plan.

They have to fiddle with the ball around 40 metrs out, while the opposition gets eight or nine back. They won't shoot. Zabaleta and Tevez have shown what happens when you do actually shoot.

i agree mate, this season we are relying on individual brilliance rather than a good team move to break the team down. at the moment we are turning into arsenal with this tippy tappy style that enables teams to defend easily against us.

 

[Marvin]

@grimupnorth

like ive said mate, when a team defends deep, if you have pace, you can break them down, like again i hate referencing the rags but how many teams do the same at their place and they break them down. rekik had acres of space that just wasnt picked out.

he wasn't picked out because he's a central defender playing at left back and doesn't have the ability of a Clichy, Kolarov, Maicon or Richards

We struggled for width and that's why Sinclair came on but the team more or less picked itself (assuming Clichy and Milner weren't fully fit)