Man notified of burglary via app goes home murders burglar [Liverpool]

[Daz-Simp]

So you do accept there is a line. Thanks for clearing that up.

I drew my line many posts ago, but if reiterating it helps you in some way, then good.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

As I stated, "as a result of a homeowner actively defending their property". I think that was a clear enough line to make your hypothetical situation unnecessary and beneath the level of discussion.

Lol

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

It’s in the Mail.
A paper written by cunts for cunts.

Dennislb
you forgot owned by an entitled …..

 

[bluemoon32]

Would u have stabbed them in the eye, gone off, come back and then slit his throat?

Of course not but the general malaise from coppers over burglaries does my head in.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

2nd of those seems a bit harsh to me. Two men break in and use enough force for the judge to describe it as a terrifying situation and yet he gets prison. The surviving burglar gets a suspended sentence and community service. Some deterrent that.

Amazed he pleaded guilty. It’s NI so I can’t be sure, but the days of short sentences for manslaughter are pretty much a thing of the past so once the guy pleaded the Judge probably didn’t have any choice.

As to the burglary sentence, on the face of it, it seems light, but probably a reflection of the ordeal he suffered seeing his friend killed. They may have been other circumstances which reduced his sentence too. It’s a myth that burglary sentences are light. There’s a ‘three strike’ rule that’s been in force in England and Wales for over 20 years where three convictions for burglaries of a dwelling mean a minimum sentence of three years. The courts do not take burglaries from people’s homes at all lightly.

They are a fucking horrible thing to endure and people who commit these offences are generally the pond life of the criminal fraternity.

 

[bluemoon32]

Amazed he pleaded guilty. It’s NI so I can’t be sure, but the days of short sentences for manslaughter are pretty much a thing of the past so once the guy pleaded the Judge probably didn’t have any choice.

As to the burglary sentence, on the face of it, it seems light, but probably a reflection of the ordeal he suffered seeing his friend killed. They may have been other circumstances which reduced his sentence too. It’s a myth that burglary sentences are light. There’s a ‘three strike’ rule that’s been in force in England and Wales for over 20 years where three convictions for burglaries of a dwelling mean a minimum sentence of three years. The courts do not take burglaries from people’s homes at all lightly.

They are a fucking horrible thing to endure and people who commit these offences are generally the pond life of the criminal fraternity.

You have to catch them first and my experience with plod was that they couldn't give a shit about burglaries.
They just gave me a crime number for the insurance

 

[Trojan1962]

Hate residential burglars scum of the earth

 

[SiMCFC]

Excessive force used (clearly) by the homeowner which will rightly result in him doing some serious time in Prison, however if they hadn't broken into his house the whole situation wouldn't have happened so I actually have zero sympathy for the deceased, if you want to be a criminal you live and die by that choice.

 

[Nethermoor]

Bit of a story, unrelated to this actual case but interesting none the less.

two blokes break into a family home trying to find car keys. They grab the man and his wife, drag her by her hair into the living room. Stab the guy in his back puncturing his lung and make off with the car (waste of time, the car was an old zafira, but probably to be used in another robbery). Literally as they left the police were called and picked up the car about a mile away and chased the stolen car who promptly binned it into a wall at speed killing instantly the driver. Passenger made off to be caught later.

INSTANT KARMA

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

2nd of those seems a bit harsh to me. Two men break in and use enough force for the judge to describe it as a terrifying situation and yet he gets prison. The surviving burglar gets a suspended sentence and community service. Some deterrent that.

They didn't have a weapon , stabbing someone six times isn't self defence.

He could have just let them take his cannabis. Article doesn't explicitly say he is a drug dealer, but possibly seems it is implied if the stash was worth breaking in to his house with threats.

Similar case.

Samurai sword death attacker jailed for 8 years

A WALKDEN drug dealer has started an eight-year jail sentence for stabbing a 37-year-old Salford robber to death with a samurai sword.

www.theboltonnews.co.uk

If he had drew the knife in response to "right we are gonna batter you senseless/kill you because we can't have you talking about this theft" he probably would have got off.

Why hide the knife in a bin when claiming self-defence?