Man notified of burglary via app goes home murders burglar [Liverpool]

[paulchapo]

This is one weird story. The two blokes are fucked, no way can they claim self defence. Only carry the weapon you're prepared to do the time for. Carrying a knife means if you have to use it there is a large possibility someone will die. A couple of baseball bats would have been better so long as you don't keep smashing it over someone's head.

They must have been after something, four blokes at 6:25 pm just don't randomly rob a house for the telly and laptop. Also two Joe Bloggs don't arm themselves with knives and go and confront four burglar's either. Odd one.

 

[bumbleblue]

Something amiss here makes no sense. If you saw some scrotes breaking in on your fancy camera bell thing wouldn’t you just ring the cops. I would especially if the lady of the house was out with the dog and could be back anytime. I would be more arsed about ringing her telling her to stay out of the fucking way and you’re calling or have called the police, than rolling round there tooled up. But then I would assume the burglars would be wrong uns and batter me if I went round..

 

[paulchapo]

Something amiss here makes no sense. If you saw some scrotes breaking in on your fancy camera bell thing wouldn’t you just ring the cops. I would especially if the lady of the house was out with the dog and could be back anytime. I would be more arsed about ringing her telling her to stay out of the fucking way and you’re calling or have called the police, than rolling round there tooled up. But then I would assume the burglars would be wrong uns and batter me if I went round..

There is that and the repercussions if you killed one of them, like that Tony Martin bloke.

 

[bumbleblue]

There is that and the repercussions if you killed one of them, like that Tony Martin bloke.

Exactly doing time for a robbing twat bag.. no thanks have the fucking telly . Something really off about this. 4 burglars, do they usually travel in packs? Two blokes grabbing knives and going to confront them with one of their partners just out of the door with Fido..more to this. Fuck knows

 

[paulchapo]

Exactly doing time for a robbing twat bag.. no thanks have the fucking telly . Something really off about this. 4 burglars, do they usually travel in packs? Two blokes grabbing knives and going to confront them with one of their partners just out of the door with Fido..more to this. Fuck knows

It's well odd. As you get older you realise very little is worth doing one day in prison for, life is too short. There are a few utter dickheads walking around today because I took this path. I still have the odd battle with the devil and angel in my mind at times even so, lol.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

If it hasn’t already been said (don’t think it has) I think there may be more to this

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There is that and the repercussions if you killed one of them, like that Tony Martin bloke.

Tony Martin did shoot the bloke in the back as he was running away.

There were mitigating circumstances as to why he did that, but he committed murder, but with mental health issues stemming from prolonged and repeated provocation and threats.

 

[paulchapo]

Tony Martin did shoot the bloke in the back as he was running away.

There were mitigating circumstances as to why he did that, but he committed murder, but with mental health issues stemming from prolonged and repeated provocation and threats.

Well none of us were there but he was alone ( I think) in a isolated farmhouse in the dark with Intruders, not for the first time as you say. These things tend to happen very quickly when the adrenaline is pumping and the fight or flight is in full flow. In an orderly safe courtroom it is easy for lawyers to say what should and shouldn't have happened and in the cold light of day and that safe environment of the courtroom I'm sure Tony Martin would have agreed. In the dark isolated farmhouse, alone and afraid, I'm sure he did what he thought right to survive.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Well none of us were there but he was alone ( I think) in a isolated farmhouse in the dark with Intruders, not for the first time as you say. These things tend to happen very quickly when the adrenaline is pumping and the fight or flight is in full flow. In an orderly safe courtroom it is easy for lawyers to say what should and shouldn't have happened and in the cold light of day and that safe environment of the courtroom I'm sure Tony Martin would have agreed. In the dark isolated farmhouse, alone and afraid, I'm sure he did what he thought right to survive.

Sure and that’s why @gordondaviesmoustache talked about juries being a lot more sympathetic to people defending their own homes and family. It’s a natural reaction.

Tony Martin did shoot a man running away and as such, he committed a murder. That was subsequently quashed, I think, on appeal due to his previous ordeals and his mental state.

It will be interesting to see if there are any mitigating circumstances in this case. It sounds like career criminals crossing paths with neither side caring much about the law.

The ultimate winner of this situation seems to be society if one criminal has died and another gets life for murdering him.

We shall see.

 

[PinkFinal]

The killer addressed the victim by name so assuming he didn't ask him his name at the time he obviously knew who he was. Despite him being from St Helens.
This doesn't add up.