Manchester City Centre

Hoghead said:
Rightly or wrongly, and it has been reported, that many are 'professional' beggars from out of town.
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which is bollocks if you are someone who works in town and is there at 5:30- 6am in the morning and the town is still full of homeless people, yes some chancers about but would say they are 0.5% of tge ones you see
 
A lot of the homeless shelters money got shelved due to the austerity cuts, add to that a lot of social services, alcohol and drug services, abuse centres and mental health services got binned too.

Blaming it on professional beggars is ridiculous.
 
Whoever is to blame it's becoming an increasingly pressing problem which the council need to address .....you can spend millions on new buildings but they don't look so great when you've got beggars roughing it in front of them.
 
The amount of professional beggars isn't enough to be the problem of the amount of people who beg on the streets. Although there are many, a new initiative at http://www.Bigchangemcr.co.uk aims to help provide whats necessary for genuinely homeless people.
So donate to this guys.
Give your food, blankets, tents and so on to this new initiative which also provides services such as skill training for the homeless and if you have a spare suit???
They also loan suits to the homeless when they are applying for jobs.

I don't give money at all.
I still give food to those who I know are genuinely homeless (you get to know them being in town so often particularly at night)
But yea any spare change you have or tinned food etc give to the new initiative at that website please.

Thanks for reading.
 
MaartenV87 said:
Hi guys sorry for hijacking this thread, I will be traveling to Manchester city tomorrow and have a few questions.
We arrive at Manchester Airport and will be staying in a hotel at Manchester Victoria station.
What is the cheapest/most used way to get there? Taxi? Train?

Are there any pubs/bars that send out belgian football? Anderlecht - Genk at sunday for example :-).

Thank you for your answers!
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Turn back.
 
It's a lucrative lifestyle choice that's fuelled by class A drugs, if you want to see the end of it then you need to stop giving money, it's not helping, people should starve the beast not feed it.

There's no reason a beggar can't sell The Big Issue, the reason why they don't is because you only make a low sum of money £30 a full day say. Compare this to around £100 a day for sitting on your backside doing nothing.

It hurts me, when i see people who work in low pay jobs, with all the usual bills to pay, giving money and then watching the beggar get on the phone to score some crack with it, and it's perpetual more crack more money more begging.

Ask yourself, would you feel a warm fuzzy glow of humanity if you'd just dropped a needle full of heroin into that young lads hat?

The police used to move people on, but they seem to have stopped all that in the last 5 years or so, it's going to lead to vigilantism as some people have had enough i can feel the animosity on the streets, and it's almost as if that's what's intended.

signed a Big issue seller
 
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I work on Whitworth street and most days there is usually one person every 20 yards on Oxford road. When the temperature plummets a lot of the beggars vanish and you see who really is homeless and who is not.

I've seen some of them refusing food off people,some buying drugs, I even saw one that had been begging yesterday on the bus later and on his mobile phone getting off at Worsley. Things can't be bad for him at all.

You want to help the genuine people but these weak willed addicts are in the way, feeding their habits and getting off home to sleep in their houses paid for by you and me whilst living off other people's naive good will.
 
walking through picaddily gardens the other day. there were so many homeless people, in every doorway or sleeping on benches. a lot of them were completely out of it. the city centre is getting worse for it and you can see people openly selling drugs ( has always happened) in picaddily gardens in the middle of the day. the centre has turned into such a shithole.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
You can see people openly selling drugs ( has always happened)
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In the past, it wasn't ever done as openly as nowadays. They nearly always at least made a show of doing it 'privately' .... Now it is so blatant. Also, smoking a joint walking down the street (in town, and in the suburbs) appears to be the norm, and accepted in society now ....
 
MCFCTrick said:
In the past, it wasn't ever done as openly as nowadays. They nearly always at least made a show of doing it 'privately' .... Now it is so blatant. Also, smoking a joint walking down the street (in town, and in the suburbs) appears to be the norm, and accepted in society now ....
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yea you can smell weed pretty much most places in the town centre. i think it is the norm now, i went to stockport college a few years ago and the place smelt of weed quite a bit aha. as you say its so obvious, especially in picaddily gardens. you can see groups of them selling drugs openly. if you walk through it after a night out, theres always large groups of people all selling it around there.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
walking through picaddily gardens the other day. there were so many homeless people, in every doorway or sleeping on benches. a lot of them were completely out of it. the city centre is getting worse for it and you can see people openly selling drugs ( has always happened) in picaddily gardens in the middle of the day. the centre has turned into such a shithole.
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Don't think it happened much in Piccadilly gardens during 1939-45, they were too busy dodging the Luftwaffe bombs
 
I was over for the game yesterday, and Market Street is awash with beggars in doorways. Piccadilly Gardens too. Sad to see people struggling like that.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
there are a lot who aren't actually homeless. in stockport for instance there is a man with a dog who regularly begs outside a pet store, who isn't homeless and lives in a leafy big house in wilmslow. the city centre epsically around pica dilly 'gardens' is a shithole, full of drug dealers.
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Does he speak with a Govan accent and sport a purple nose?
 
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