Manchester City close on Pellegrini (merged)

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Posters who tell porkies should be reprimanded.

So a moderators warning for the entire Transfer forum then?
Some folk post in good faith, some are wums, others maybe rags.
The hard part is telling the difference.

 

[OB1]

OK this is my two peneth.

Lets look at the returns we have had on our Managers both how we played and what we won against the History and credibility they came with. Now im not going to lay out stats, as they can be flakey, but as a generalisation

Mark Hughes - Came with no history of success or wining fook all previously. Left having won fook all and no signs of winning anything. Occasional great game due to some of the expensive players bought.

Sven - Came with great CV and blindly assembled a team in 4-5 weeks that had the capabilities to go on and do "something". He won nothing i know with CIty but he was shafted big style

Stuart Pearce - No reputation no history - At City, Won Fook all and played the worst football I've ever seen

Kevin Keegan - Came with a CV of exciting football but not much silverware, good at getting teams promoted - At City, got promoted, exciting football

Joe Royle - Good at getting teams promoted and getting best out of players, bits of silverware previously, with City both religations and promotions, got the best out an average squad

1 - 2 miss a few

Alan Ball Came to city with a reputation for religation, need I go on?


So there is a theme building up

Mancini, came to City with an outstanding domestic trawl of trophies but limited to no european success there. What has he done for City? Great domestic success upto now, no european success.

The Managers that have it all are very few and far between.

I don't think we are a club that should be lookinging to plug that european gap with a manger that has not delivered the goods before.

I have no doubt that if we had Mourinio we would win, and a lot of things inc Chumps league, however, that comes with bagagge that severe it is just not City or what our Owners stand for, we have a bit more class. - Sorry special one, but not for City

I think that we are too far along our development to be chancing our progression with a manager with "Potential"

We all know Mancini's negatives are his man management skills and upto now poor european efforts, but is Pelligrini the right person to take over? He might be a great man manager and have all the squad over for a BBQ and he might of had a good run in chumps league with an unfashionable team, but that seems all he has, there are a few bits of silverware in his past in a different continent, but is it sound enough to take a punt on?

It is a very difficult decision to take with the future of our club at the moment, not one to take lightly, and will no doubt have the top brass locked in a strokey beard meeting for hours, weeks and months.

As for Talkshite "MOOSE", he is the apitomy of modern day football journo's, LAZY WANKERS. He is a joke of massive proportions, even Alan Brazil pities him. So OP, don't stake your rep on Talk shite rumours mate.

Good read as usual Gracey, agree with everything you say, however TS might be taking a punt but i'm afraid the wheels look in motion, i'd sooner Bob was given the respect he deserves and the chance to have another pop at it but alas it looks over )O:

Very little that I would disagree with.

I may be in the out camp but, in truth, only marginally so and Pellegrini is not someone that I would remove Bobby for; if Bobby were to choose to go (my preferred option), I'd consider MP but he would not be top of the list. If he is our next manager, let's hope that his time has finally come (to start winning trophies again).

 

[bluesimon]

PLEASE - PLEASE - PLEASE. Can we just have some continuity and stability. We have recently signed the backbone players on extensions (Yaya, Silva, Kompany etc) and there is bound to be significant traffic with other players this coming window.
But please, for fooks sake, leave Mancini and his team in place. No manager is perfect - anywhere. Mancini is not a good man manager, but with respect to him, he is still young when it comes to being a manager and like virtually any other normal person, needs time to evolve.
The last 3+ years have been unbelievable. We have been to Wembley more times than an the previous generation, we are fighting on more fronts, we took the league of the fucking swamp donkeys, 3 trohpies (& counting) and we can all go to every game with genuine hope and expectation. I am not saying that another manager might not have achieved the same, if not more, given what Mancini has had available to him, but lets please keep some perspective.
Hopefully Txixi (or whatever he is called) is sorting out the player comings and goings with more stability and appropriate contracts which in itself is essential for the long term and keeping in mind our owners ambitions have been not only long term but with the generation to generation scale vision (it is going to take at least 10+ years to start to see any kind of benefit from the new academy), it must be underpinned by stability and continuity behind the scenes with the manager, his team and those in the seats of power.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Posters who tell porkies should be reprimanded.

So a moderators warning for the entire Transfer forum then?
Some folk post in good faith, some are wums, others maybe rags.
The hard part is telling the difference.

That's the fun of the Transfer Forum. It's also the BM equivalent of those zones the police set up where they'll turn a blind eye to drug dealing and taking as long as it stays there and they don't make too many waves.

 

[mayo31]

I saw your original and it was a good post.

But if you want a change of manager get ready for plenty more misrepresentation, along with the wrath of self-righteousness, from the Forza Crew. Hell hath no fury and all that ;-)

It was a stupid post that made no sense, for reasons I explained.
So if you fancy explaining just how a team can win more and more every year without a blip, then I'm all ears.
And try dropping the tiresome 'inner/outer' Forza Crew bullshit because it is not something I have ever done.
And when it comes to self-righteousness David, I think you own the copyright.

Read it again please mate. I didn't say we should be winning more and more every season, without a blip. What I said was, we should be going one better. I meant we should be bettering ourselves in the CL. I'd be happy with 2nd place in the league a quarter final place in the CL and.....yeah, why not the cup as well? We could win that on Saturday and I for one, would be over the moon. However, with the amount of money we have, we shouldn't be coming last in a CL group; not with the squad we have. Mancini cannot manage super stars. You have to understand, I do NOT expect us to win the league title every season. Christ no! AND, what if we lose on Saturday? Was it a successful season, given the amount of money we have?

Why are you going on about the amount of money we have. Whilst our owners are without doubt very wealthy the club has spent only what all of the other so called top clubs have spent except ours was over a shorter period of time to enable catch up.

 

[scotty123]

Dave comes along with his little winks to make out he maybe or maybe not already knows something to move things along a little.
Fantasy gets in his little quips about how bad the mancini is but nothing else
Prestwich agrees with anything they all say soon enough he will drop the odd I may know something.
Nip posts is usual boring long winded posts which is just the same thing but with the words jumbled around a little.
Tolmie pops in with some info which might or might not be happening.

It is quite predictable really

I agree with everything you say. But I've just had an interesting text....

Whats in the text mate, spill the beans

 

[Eccles Blue]

Like an earlier poster I've just had an interesting text........................






The Eccles coach leaves at 6.45 tonight....................


I know, boring wasn't it? Just about as boring as this thread.

Until I read on the Official Manchester City Website that Roberto Mancini has gone/been replaced/resigned whatever, I believe nothing else. The only people who know for certain are the board and the owner. Then it will be announced on the Official Website.

Twenty eight pages on a silly Talksport rumour. Heaven forfend!!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

PLEASE - PLEASE - PLEASE. Can we just have some continuity and stability. We have recently signed the backbone players on extensions (Yaya, Silva, Kompany etc) and there is bound to be significant traffic with other players this coming window.
But please, for fooks sake, leave Mancini and his team in place. No manager is perfect - anywhere. Mancini is not a good man manager, but with respect to him, he is still young when it comes to being a manager and like virtually any other normal person, needs time to evolve.
The last 3+ years have been unbelievable. We have been to Wembley more times than an the previous generation, we are fighting on more fronts, we took the league of the fucking swamp donkeys, 3 trohpies (& counting) and we can all go to every game with genuine hope and expectation. I am not saying that another manager might not have achieved the same, if not more, given what Mancini has had available to him, but lets please keep some perspective.
Hopefully Txixi (or whatever he is called) is sorting out the player comings and goings with more stability and appropriate contracts which in itself is essential for the long term and keeping in mind our owners ambitions have been not only long term but with the generation to generation scale vision (it is going to take at least 10+ years to start to see any kind of benefit from the new academy), it must be underpinned by stability and continuity behind the scenes with the manager, his team and those in the seats of power.

Managerial stability is overrated because of one freak of a man

 

[NipHolmes]

PLEASE - PLEASE - PLEASE. Can we just have some continuity and stability. We have recently signed the backbone players on extensions (Yaya, Silva, Kompany etc) and there is bound to be significant traffic with other players this coming window.
But please, for fooks sake, leave Mancini and his team in place. No manager is perfect - anywhere. Mancini is not a good man manager, but with respect to him, he is still young when it comes to being a manager and like virtually any other normal person, needs time to evolve.
The last 3+ years have been unbelievable. We have been to Wembley more times than an the previous generation, we are fighting on more fronts, we took the league of the fucking swamp donkeys, 3 trohpies (& counting) and we can all go to every game with genuine hope and expectation. I am not saying that another manager might not have achieved the same, if not more, given what Mancini has had available to him, but lets please keep some perspective.
Hopefully Txixi (or whatever he is called) is sorting out the player comings and goings with more stability and appropriate contracts which in itself is essential for the long term and keeping in mind our owners ambitions have been not only long term but with the generation to generation scale vision (it is going to take at least 10+ years to start to see any kind of benefit from the new academy), it must be underpinned by stability and continuity behind the scenes with the manager, his team and those in the seats of power.

Managerial stability is overrated because of one freak of a man

People also say they want stability yet want a change of playing staff to 'give him what he wants'. I thought stability was on and off the pitch? Must be confused.

 

[Blumers Bloomers]

On my lunch and I've ten minutes to catch up........have I missed anything whatsoever in this thread?