Manchester City vs Liverpool pre-match thread

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One other thought. Nobody'll go with me on this one, but I've been thinking for the past week that Beast should play some part in this game, and that I'd play him even for part of the match, over Dzeko. It is no longer true that he is shockingly off form. He's gradually been playing himself back. Anybody can see that in the last two games he's been trying his arse off, and he's been within a whisker of scoring. I just think that he's a physical, burly player who doesn't mind mixing it, who likes it in fact, and we need some of that stuff up front against this crew. Even if he doesn't score, he's better at winning the long ball with his back to goal than Edin, then not being hustled off it, holding it to release it for the midfield when it comes streaming through. And we need possession, and then more possession, in this one. No disrespect to Edin Dzeko, he's done very well in the last few games, got through a lot of work, even when he doesn't score. I just don't see this as at all his kind of game.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Chippy_boy said:
Zabbasbeard said:
Blue Maverick said:
I've had enough of this Hillsborough stuff, is getting tired now, yes I have sympathy but fuck me move on, I'm so nervous for Sunday, just hope it's not decided by some shite Twatenburg decision.

25 years have passed without justice. How can people move on? They lost heir loved ones who were falsely accused.

Who are you to say they should "move on"? If it had been your Dad, Mum, brother, sister, friend, girlfriend/boyfriend, cousin, or any other relative could you ever move on?

It could have been us if we'd had a better side (we were trying to get promoted from Division 2 at the time). Think about it.

On 15th April 1989, we were watching City getting tonked at Blackburn and it was half time when when I switched on my tranny and heard the news that there had been deaths. We can never forget that tragedy.

I am so proud of our club and 99.99% of our fans. After a request from some City fans, MCFC has commissioned a banner which will be taken to Anfield and held aloft by City fans, paying our respects to the victims of Hillsborough. City have also taken out a full page ad in the match programme with “YNWA” and both club badges. Mike Summerbee and Joe Corrigan will hand over 96 blue and red roses to Kenny Dalglish and Ian Rush.

It is a source of national disgrace that justice has not been done for the Hillsborough Disaster. That 25 years have passed and justice still has not been done deepens that disgrace.

The victims were falsely blamed for the tragedy by South Yorkshire Police and Margaret Thatcher's government.
Their reputations were besmirched by the Police and Thatcher's govt who repeatedly told lies about them and what went on.

South Yorkshire Police amended Police officers' accounts of the Disaster, and bullied other officers into changing their accounts.

Vital evidence which could have made the truth public was covered up or destroyed by the Police and Thatcher's government.

Alcohol blood tests were taken of children who died at Hillsborough. Yes children were blood tested for alcohol to try to perpetuate the lie that drunken fans caused the disaster.

It was gross negligence and incompetence that caused the disaster.

Liverpool fans were falsely accused of breaking down the doors to the stadium when those gates were opened on the instruction of the South Yorkshire Police Match Commander.

Despite requests from Liverpool, The FA and S Yorks Police put Liverpool fans in the fateful smaller Leppings Lane end of Hillsborough. There had been crushing in the Leppings Lane End in 1981.

Hillsborough Stadium did not have an up to date safety certificate yet Sheffield City Council failed to close it.

The FA chose an unfit, unsafe stadium for one of the biggest matches of the season.

S Yorks Police (investigated rather conveniently in the aftermath by the equally corrupt West Midlands Police) told a tissue of lies.

The Emergency services were slow to respond to tend to the dying and injured.

The original Hillsborough coroner wrongly recorded a verdict of "accidental death", and deemed an erroneous cut off point when victims had no chance of survival - it has since been discovered that some of those people could have been saved.

Some people in Britain self righteously talk about the "British sense of fair play". What fair play? It's always been a myth (eg slavery, invading and looting other people's countries). Where is the fair play for the victims of Hillsborough and their families?

We stand together with them in dearly hoping these families find justice and that those who are responsible are prosecuted. Those have waited for far too long - 25 years - for justice.

JUSTICE FOR THE 96.

Yeah it's all Margaret Thatcher's fault???!! Give it a rest with political horseshit FFS.
He's just explained, with great conviction, the reason why Liverpool can't just "move on" and you call it "political horseshit".

The disaster itself wasn't Thatcher's fault, and he didn't say it was. What he did say was that the process of finding the truth was delayed because of Thatcher's government and the Police.

It's been 25 years and we've only just found out the real truth and there's still corruption we're not aware of surrounding the Hillsbrough disaster.

So it's not "political bullshit", it's the good honest truth and exactly why Liverpool can mourn this injustice for years to come.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Blue Is the Opposite of Blue said:
Chippy_boy said:
Zabbasbeard said:
25 years have passed without justice. How can people move on? They lost heir loved ones who were falsely accused.

Who are you to say they should "move on"? If it had been your Dad, Mum, brother, sister, friend, girlfriend/boyfriend, cousin, or any other relative could you ever move on?

It could have been us if we'd had a better side (we were trying to get promoted from Division 2 at the time). Think about it.

On 15th April 1989, we were watching City getting tonked at Blackburn and it was half time when when I switched on my tranny and heard the news that there had been deaths. We can never forget that tragedy.

I am so proud of our club and 99.99% of our fans. After a request from some City fans, MCFC has commissioned a banner which will be taken to Anfield and held aloft by City fans, paying our respects to the victims of Hillsborough. City have also taken out a full page ad in the match programme with “YNWA” and both club badges. Mike Summerbee and Joe Corrigan will hand over 96 blue and red roses to Kenny Dalglish and Ian Rush.

It is a source of national disgrace that justice has not been done for the Hillsborough Disaster. That 25 years have passed and justice still has not been done deepens that disgrace.

The victims were falsely blamed for the tragedy by South Yorkshire Police and Margaret Thatcher's government.
Their reputations were besmirched by the Police and Thatcher's govt who repeatedly told lies about them and what went on.

South Yorkshire Police amended Police officers' accounts of the Disaster, and bullied other officers into changing their accounts.

Vital evidence which could have made the truth public was covered up or destroyed by the Police and Thatcher's government.

Alcohol blood tests were taken of children who died at Hillsborough. Yes children were blood tested for alcohol to try to perpetuate the lie that drunken fans caused the disaster.

It was gross negligence and incompetence that caused the disaster.

Liverpool fans were falsely accused of breaking down the doors to the stadium when those gates were opened on the instruction of the South Yorkshire Police Match Commander.

Despite requests from Liverpool, The FA and S Yorks Police put Liverpool fans in the fateful smaller Leppings Lane end of Hillsborough. There had been crushing in the Leppings Lane End in 1981.

Hillsborough Stadium did not have an up to date safety certificate yet Sheffield City Council failed to close it.

The FA chose an unfit, unsafe stadium for one of the biggest matches of the season.

S Yorks Police (investigated rather conveniently in the aftermath by the equally corrupt West Midlands Police) told a tissue of lies.

The Emergency services were slow to respond to tend to the dying and injured.

The original Hillsborough coroner wrongly recorded a verdict of "accidental death", and deemed an erroneous cut off point when victims had no chance of survival - it has since been discovered that some of those people could have been saved.

Some people in Britain self righteously talk about the "British sense of fair play". What fair play? It's always been a myth (eg slavery, invading and looting other people's countries). Where is the fair play for the victims of Hillsborough and their families?

We stand together with them in dearly hoping these families find justice and that those who are responsible are prosecuted. Those have waited for far too long - 25 years - for justice.

JUSTICE FOR THE 96.

Yeah it's all Margaret Thatcher's fault???!! Give it a rest with political horseshit FFS.
He's just explained, with great conviction, the reason why Liverpool can't just "move on" and you call it "political horseshit".

The disaster itself wasn't Thatcher's fault, and he didn't say it was. What he did say was that the process of finding the truth was delayed because of Thatcher's government and the Police.

It's been 25 years and we've only just found out the real truth and there's still corruption we're not aware of surrounding the Hillsbrough disaster.

So it's not "political bullshit", it's the good honest truth and exactly why Liverpool can mourn this injustice for years to come.

do they still have to do it in public though?

can't they finally do their mourning in private ffs
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Just an opinion, and I could be reading too much into it, but I don't think Pellegrini will start Aguero on Sunday.

Him saying that Aguero is 100% fit will probably be a tactic to make Liverpool think he'll be playing. If he was going to start Aguero he would more likely have said he was 50/50 or will see how he feels on the day.

As I say, just an opinion and most will probably feel it's a bit far fetched and his comment was about Aguero's fitness and nothing more.

What I think the team will be:

Hart
Zabaleta
Kompany
Demichelis
Clichy
Fernandinho
Yaya
Silva
Navas
Nasri
Dzeko

However I hope Nasri is replaced by Garcia, Navas by Jovetic and Dzeko by Aguero.
Trouble there is that if i was a Liverpool player i would be apprehensive knowing Aguero is starting, then to have hte news that in fact Dzeko is starting would give me a lift.
 
super_city_si said:
ayrshire_blue said:
Just an opinion, and I could be reading too much into it, but I don't think Pellegrini will start Aguero on Sunday.

Him saying that Aguero is 100% fit will probably be a tactic to make Liverpool think he'll be playing. If he was going to start Aguero he would more likely have said he was 50/50 or will see how he feels on the day.

As I say, just an opinion and most will probably feel it's a bit far fetched and his comment was about Aguero's fitness and nothing more.

What I think the team will be:

Hart
Zabaleta
Kompany
Demichelis
Clichy
Fernandinho
Yaya
Silva
Navas
Nasri
Dzeko

However I hope Nasri is replaced by Garcia, Navas by Jovetic and Dzeko by Aguero.
Trouble there is that if i was a Liverpool player i would be apprehensive knowing Aguero is starting, then to have hte news that in fact Dzeko is starting would give me a lift.

Me too, if I were a Liverpool defender I'd be delighted to see Dzeko was starting and not infact Aguero.

However Pellegrini obviously has confidence in the lad and possibly is of the mindset that Liverpool being prepared to play against one sort of player then coming up against a completely different sort might unsettle them.

We'll see, I could be onto nothing, just feel Dzeko will get the nod.
 
So Rogers is going to "unleash the power of the Liverpool crowd" on us is he. God I want to beat them more than anything. The media wankathon plus their fans and managers bullshit is really pissing me off. Go out there and fucking destroy them City.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

redlfc said:
i think it's gonna be a tough match.its gonna be intense,fast paced due to the nature of our game,the fans will up 4 it and all that..but i still think the difference will be suarez,sturidge,sterling 1 on 1 against a slow demichelis.i think we will nick it.our attack is way 2 strong for ur defence especially @ anfield

Type with proper English and we might listen to you.
 
RandomJ said:
So Rogers is going to "unleash the power of the Liverpool crowd" on us is he. God I want to beat them more than anything. The media wankathon plus their fans and managers bullshit is really pissing me off. Go out there and fucking destroy them City.

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I bet our players are shaking like a alky waking up to find he has no Supers in the house.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Balti said:
Blue Is the Opposite of Blue said:
Chippy_boy said:
Yeah it's all Margaret Thatcher's fault???!! Give it a rest with political horseshit FFS.
He's just explained, with great conviction, the reason why Liverpool can't just "move on" and you call it "political horseshit".

The disaster itself wasn't Thatcher's fault, and he didn't say it was. What he did say was that the process of finding the truth was delayed because of Thatcher's government and the Police.

It's been 25 years and we've only just found out the real truth and there's still corruption we're not aware of surrounding the Hillsbrough disaster.

So it's not "political bullshit", it's the good honest truth and exactly why Liverpool can mourn this injustice for years to come.

do they still have to do it in public though?

can't they finally do their mourning in private ffs

Why shouldn't they mourn in public. Why is it such a problem? Are you that intolerant of folk remembering their loved ones (whose reputations were trashed by the Police, media and Govt of the day) that it is such a problem. If you can't put up with it on sunday why not just give your ticket away or sell it to a Blue who'll respect the occasion and get on with supporting MCFC without the pointless moaning? Or if you'e not going, just switch the game on at 13:37, or if the banners at the game are still a problem go for a walk, or read a book and then your sensitivities won't be offended.

Sheesh...
 
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