Manchester City vs Liverpool pre-match thread

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Either way, it should be a smashing game. You have perhaps the best midfielder in the world in Yaya Toure and we have Stevie G who will be hungrier than ever to add the PL trophy to his CL winner medal. Suarez vs. Dzeko...i assume, Skrtel vs. Kompany..both have been very solid this season with Skrtel scoring more (albeit at both ends), Yaya vs. Gerrard (i think you have the edge there)...honestly i prefer Sterling to Navas and Sturridge to Negredo...i prefer our central defender pairing but feel you have better wingbacks. It will come down to a battle of wits between managers.

Pellegrini has more experience but Rodgers is more dynamic and is proving to be a fantastic manager. Add to that a packed Anfield like you have never seen before and i think we will just edge it.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

City Raider said:
Scouse_Jimi said:
Let's try escape the troll fest...

Man for man - Liverpool Vs Man City. My pick of the two teams to create an ultimate 11, with some reasoning and my own formation.

Mignolet / Hart- Both capable of huge errors, Hart wins it for me on experience.
Johnson / Zableta - Both quite equal for me, Zableta offers more in defence so gets the nod
Skrtel / Kompany - Skrtel gets bullied and Kompany is an all round better defender
Sakho / Demichellis(or any other CB) - Sakho is quality. He'll be on a par with Kompany in the next 2 years
Flanagan / Clichy/Kolarov - Experience wins out, don't really know enough about your two. Flanno is all heart though...
Gerrard / Fernandinho - Would take Gerrard over Ferndandinho, basically because he's Gerrard, his range of passing is far superior and in the style LFC play he's integral. Fernandinho has come good after a wobbly start, against any of our other midfielders he would have won out.
Henderson / Toure - Candidate for player of the year against someone who should be a candidate for young player of the year.
Coutinho / Silva - Struggled for form this year, still trying to work out his best position. He's not a 10 or a wide player. Silva, after having a bit of a shit season last year, is back on song. Pure Quality
Sterling / Navas - Contentious one this, I'd much rather have Sterling. Seems far more dangerous cutting inside than Navas. Much more of a goal threat and can play in the middle or out wide.
Sturridge / Dzeko - Studge is far more dynamic than Dzeko, playing across the front with ease. Better goal scoring record.
Suarez / Aguero - Another contentious one, purely on form I'd go with Luis. Think they're fairly equal in reality however for this game, I'd rather have the player in form than the one returning from injury.


This is why this game is pretty much win/win for us. If we lose, we shouldn't and won't be down hearted - playing a team who have been built with medals & championships in mind and assembled at a much greater cost (transfer and salary). You can argue that all you like but ultimately money spent = pressure to win things and that's what City have got. Citys team, on paper, should win easily...

If we win this game we're a step closer to the title.So win / win - personally think we're going to win it. Anfield will be a full on cauldron, the atmosphere will be fantastic and I know a lot of you have been taking the piss but the JFT96 campaign will bring additional passion for both the players and the fans to win this one. Gerrard, in particular (who lost a cousin at Hillsborough) always plays a blinder on these occasions. The fact it's a win/win means there's little pressure on us and we'll play with freedom. Plus...usually when we have a struggle away, our return home game see's us scoring lots of goals.

Pellegrini will probably follow a Chelsea model, soak up the pressure in the first 20 keep it tight and try win the midfield battle whilst using Silva to orchestrate. I think Toure might be the weak link for you here though, he's a world class player however he can be a lazy bastard at times and with our runners from midfield he's going to need to do his share of tracking and defending. Defensively we're weak however Dzeko doesn't scare me and I can't see Ageuro starting - after rushing him back the last time I think the manager and the player will both want a slow re-introduction. Sakho will be given the job of snuffing out Silva before he gets a chance to get his head up, between him & Gerrard they should be able to keep him quiet.

Hope that's not the case - would love you to come and play a high line on the front foot...
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You think we'll play with Dzeko and Aguero?
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He also thinks Sturridge is better than Aguero and Sterling better than Nasri.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Scouse_Jimi said:
1) This is why this game is pretty much win/win for us. If we lose, we shouldn't and won't be down hearted

2) JFT96 campaign will bring additional passion for both the players and the fans to win this one.


3) I think Toure might be the weak link

4 ) I can't see Ageuro starting -
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1) You are in denial. Quarter of a century of hurt fella. If you lose you will all be gutted . end of.

2) Bullshit. Respects will be rightly payed by all , then it is a game of football . Stop building it into something it isn't . Those tragic events have no bearing on the result whatsoever .

3) Wow . Would he not get in your team then.

4) Dream on sunshine , El Kun will be raring to rip Skirtel a new arsehole.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Scouse_Jimi said:
Let's try escape the troll fest...

Man for man - Liverpool Vs Man City. My pick of the two teams to create an ultimate 11, with some reasoning and my own formation.

Mignolet / Hart- Both capable of huge errors, Hart wins it for me on experience.
Johnson / Zableta - Both quite equal for me, Zableta offers more in defence so gets the nod
Skrtel / Kompany - Skrtel gets bullied and Kompany is an all round better defender
Sakho / Demichellis(or any other CB) - Sakho is quality. He'll be on a par with Kompany in the next 2 years
Flanagan / Clichy/Kolarov - Experience wins out, don't really know enough about your two. Flanno is all heart though...
Gerrard / Fernandinho - Would take Gerrard over Ferndandinho, basically because he's Gerrard, his range of passing is far superior and in the style LFC play he's integral. Fernandinho has come good after a wobbly start, against any of our other midfielders he would have won out.
Henderson / Toure - Candidate for player of the year against someone who should be a candidate for young player of the year.
Coutinho / Silva - Struggled for form this year, still trying to work out his best position. He's not a 10 or a wide player. Silva, after having a bit of a shit season last year, is back on song. Pure Quality
Sterling / Navas - Contentious one this, I'd much rather have Sterling. Seems far more dangerous cutting inside than Navas. Much more of a goal threat and can play in the middle or out wide.
Sturridge / Dzeko - Studge is far more dynamic than Dzeko, playing across the front with ease. Better goal scoring record.
Suarez / Aguero - Another contentious one, purely on form I'd go with Luis. Think they're fairly equal in reality however for this game, I'd rather have the player in form than the one returning from injury.


This is why this game is pretty much win/win for us. If we lose, we shouldn't and won't be down hearted - playing a team who have been built with medals & championships in mind and assembled at a much greater cost (transfer and salary). You can argue that all you like but ultimately money spent = pressure to win things and that's what City have got. Citys team, on paper, should win easily...

If we win this game we're a step closer to the title.So win / win - personally think we're going to win it. Anfield will be a full on cauldron, the atmosphere will be fantastic and I know a lot of you have been taking the piss but the JFT96 campaign will bring additional passion for both the players and the fans to win this one. Gerrard, in particular (who lost a cousin at Hillsborough) always plays a blinder on these occasions. The fact it's a win/win means there's little pressure on us and we'll play with freedom. Plus...usually when we have a struggle away, our return home game see's us scoring lots of goals.

Pellegrini will probably follow a Chelsea model, soak up the pressure in the first 20 keep it tight and try win the midfield battle whilst using Silva to orchestrate. I think Toure might be the weak link for you here though, he's a world class player however he can be a lazy bastard at times and with our runners from midfield he's going to need to do his share of tracking and defending. Defensively we're weak however Dzeko doesn't scare me and I can't see Ageuro starting - after rushing him back the last time I think the manager and the player will both want a slow re-introduction. Sakho will be given the job of snuffing out Silva before he gets a chance to get his head up, between him & Gerrard they should be able to keep him quiet.

Hope that's not the case - would love you to come and play a high line on the front foot...
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You've been a bit selective here in the head to heads. We'll only play 1 up, so whilst the Aguero/Suarez match up is fine (and a really tough one to call) in all reality you'd be putting Sterling & Sturridge up against Milner & Silva - hardly like for like.
Other than that, you've been pretty sensible in your reasoning, given your a dipper.

BTW, Johnson is a quite simply shocking defender.
 
Ninja Skrtel said:
In all honesty, i think a draw would be the most realistic outcome as it would reflect the quality of the teams in fairness. As i said, you have bigger names and we have more of a team.

I reffered to the game at the Etihad because we had a goal disallowed for offside when it clearly wasn't and to be honest, i feel both teams had an equal amount of chances.

You have a great manager in Pelegrini, much better than Mancini and are playing some outstanding footie but he is still adapting to the PL.

You can bet your house Anfield will be like nothing you have ever seen before on Sunday and i whilst it will get youngsters like Flanagan and Sterling and Hendo up for the occasion, it could see Negredo, Dzeko, Jovetic, Silva and Garcia just being a bit more cautious.

Whoever thinks Luis Suarez doesn't perform against the big teams is sorely mistaken. Remember what he did when Kuyt scored his hatrick against united? Suarez has a much bigger contribution than just scoring goals...i believe he is also leading the assists table.

A lot will depend on whether Aguero is back for you guys, you look a much stronger team with him. Kompany is skating on thin ice lately and with the crowd at full blast i wouldn't put it past Clattenburg to award a penalty or show red.
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Yep all International players, some of which have captained their country, some of which have won world cups/Euro's are going to be very cautious of your carnival atmosphere on Sunday.

Give it a rest.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Scouse_Jimi said:
Let's try escape the troll fest...

Man for man - Liverpool Vs Man City. My pick of the two teams to create an ultimate 11, with some reasoning and my own formation.

Mignolet / Hart- Both capable of huge errors, Hart wins it for me on experience.
Johnson / Zableta - Both quite equal for me, Zableta offers more in defence so gets the nod
Skrtel / Kompany - Skrtel gets bullied and Kompany is an all round better defender
Sakho / Demichellis(or any other CB) - Sakho is quality. He'll be on a par with Kompany in the next 2 years
Flanagan / Clichy/Kolarov - Experience wins out, don't really know enough about your two. Flanno is all heart though...
Gerrard / Fernandinho - Would take Gerrard over Ferndandinho, basically because he's Gerrard, his range of passing is far superior and in the style LFC play he's integral. Fernandinho has come good after a wobbly start, against any of our other midfielders he would have won out.
Henderson / Toure - Candidate for player of the year against someone who should be a candidate for young player of the year.
Coutinho / Silva - Struggled for form this year, still trying to work out his best position. He's not a 10 or a wide player. Silva, after having a bit of a shit season last year, is back on song. Pure Quality
Sterling / Navas - Contentious one this, I'd much rather have Sterling. Seems far more dangerous cutting inside than Navas. Much more of a goal threat and can play in the middle or out wide.
Sturridge / Dzeko - Studge is far more dynamic than Dzeko, playing across the front with ease. Better goal scoring record.
Suarez / Aguero - Another contentious one, purely on form I'd go with Luis. Think they're fairly equal in reality however for this game, I'd rather have the player in form than the one returning from injury.


This is why this game is pretty much win/win for us. If we lose, we shouldn't and won't be down hearted - playing a team who have been built with medals & championships in mind and assembled at a much greater cost (transfer and salary). You can argue that all you like but ultimately money spent = pressure to win things and that's what City have got. Citys team, on paper, should win easily...

If we win this game we're a step closer to the title.So win / win - personally think we're going to win it. Anfield will be a full on cauldron, the atmosphere will be fantastic and I know a lot of you have been taking the piss but the JFT96 campaign will bring additional passion for both the players and the fans to win this one. Gerrard, in particular (who lost a cousin at Hillsborough) always plays a blinder on these occasions. The fact it's a win/win means there's little pressure on us and we'll play with freedom. Plus...usually when we have a struggle away, our return home game see's us scoring lots of goals.

Pellegrini will probably follow a Chelsea model, soak up the pressure in the first 20 keep it tight and try win the midfield battle whilst using Silva to orchestrate. I think Toure might be the weak link for you here though, he's a world class player however he can be a lazy bastard at times and with our runners from midfield he's going to need to do his share of tracking and defending. Defensively we're weak however Dzeko doesn't scare me and I can't see Ageuro starting - after rushing him back the last time I think the manager and the player will both want a slow re-introduction. Sakho will be given the job of snuffing out Silva before he gets a chance to get his head up, between him & Gerrard they should be able to keep him quiet.

Hope that's not the case - would love you to come and play a high line on the front foot...
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No bother turning up then, is there?

Apparently atmosphere's win matches these days, not players.

We play a high line, we lose.

We play a Chelsea mentality, we lose.

We play Dzeko, we lose.

Sounds like it's you who need the convincing.

To put this 'big game' for you into some context.

We've lost something like 16 league games in three years.

There's a reason for that...
 
Ninja Skrtel said:
Either way, it should be a smashing game. You have perhaps the best midfielder in the world in Yaya Toure and we have Stevie G who will be hungrier than ever to add the PL trophy to his CL winner medal. Suarez vs. Dzeko...i assume, Skrtel vs. Kompany..both have been very solid this season with Skrtel scoring more (albeit at both ends), Yaya vs. Gerrard (i think you have the edge there)...honestly i prefer Sterling to Navas and Sturridge to Negredo...i prefer our central defender pairing but feel you have better wingbacks. It will come down to a battle of wits between managers.

Pellegrini has more experience but Rodgers is more dynamic and is proving to be a fantastic manager. Add to that a packed Anfield like you have never seen before and i think we will just edge it.
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I think we have seen it before as most of the guys going will not be posting from the edge of a forest in Serbia
 
Ninja Skrtel said:
In all honesty, i think a draw would be the most realistic outcome as it would reflect the quality of the teams in fairness. As i said, you have bigger names and we have more of a team.

I reffered to the game at the Etihad because we had a goal disallowed for offside when it clearly wasn't and to be honest, i feel both teams had an equal amount of chances.

You have a great manager in Pelegrini, much better than Mancini and are playing some outstanding footie but he is still adapting to the PL.

You can bet your house Anfield will be like nothing you have ever seen before on Sunday and i whilst it will get youngsters like Flanagan and Sterling and Hendo up for the occasion, it could see Negredo, Dzeko, Jovetic, Silva and Garcia just being a bit more cautious.

Whoever thinks Luis Suarez doesn't perform against the big teams is sorely mistaken. Remember what he did when Kuyt scored his hatrick against united? Suarez has a much bigger contribution than just scoring goals...i believe he is also leading the assists table.

A lot will depend on whether Aguero is back for you guys, you look a much stronger team with him. Kompany is skating on thin ice lately and with the crowd at full blast i wouldn't put it past Clattenburg to award a penalty or show red.
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Where do people get this shit from?

Have you not watched our team lately?

We've played loads more games than you, and we're still in the mix, if it wasn't for playing twice a week for most of the season we'd have won the league by now.

As you'll find out next season when you're back in Europe, there's a reason why so many teams struggle after playing midweek. Short memories these scousers.
 
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