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Manchester City vs Liverpool Pre Match Thread.
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I would not say that a midfield trio of Fernando-Fernandinho-Yaya is lot more defensive at home...
With this Yaya gets full license to never track back (sometimes he does this with a midfield duo too..) and play lot closer to the opponent goal. As near to it as Jovetic did last week maybe...
Also dont forget Fernandinho who can be a great box-to-box and arrive up to attacks behind Yaya, can make a long shot, can put it behind the defence, we didnt se much of these last season as he was used a def. midfielder which meant his attacking abilities were cut out of his game most of the time.
This two things, Fernandinho with more forward runs causing some Pool players have to track him also Yaya playing lot closer to goal (with a long shot from 20 meters he can score any moment...) we pprobably can be just as attacking if we would have two strikers on the pitch.
As Pellegrini said dzeko now finally does all the right runs too to involve others into attacks and if those small places are found by others like Silva, Nasri, Navas then we can score goals with only one striker upfront. As long as he makes the important channels for others. Good example was vs Newcastle first goal, Dzeko moves to the left, Silva (and Jovetic) arriving well for the open place, great assist and good goal. In that goal we knew we want it to do like this, and very hard for defenders to think 2-3 steps ahead of us.
Pool is a very good team, with a very good attacking style, that causes all sort of problems to any team they play when they are on top form. Now they arent yet probably but neither are we...
We struggled against their attacks last season in both games, both games we easily could have conceded more than we ended up ith, wonder how high line our defence will be now, because on counters vs Sturridge, Sterling it could get nasty. Coutinho is rea talent, while Gerrard can pick some long passes so we have to make sure none of these great assists are going trough, and not just react to when they are already being put behind the defence. From watching back City-Pool games from last season, we have to improve in these defensively.
With Skrtel and Lovren at them, corners must be defended very well, would be cheap to go behind or even drop points because of a corner goal. They are scoring fair amount of goals from set pieces so that is an extra danger tonight.
Maybe I am too defensive, but you know, if we could keep a clean sheet tonight, there is 99% that 3 points is ours.:)
If we concede 2-3 goals, we still can win but lose too and mostly we would draw and dont think a draw is good vs them at home. (Away from home yes...)
But lets win in 4-3:), even if my feeling is both managers will be little like "don not lose a big game this early", so expect a tight but not crazy game in terms of throwing everything into attacks.
1-0 or 2-1 to City.
With this Yaya gets full license to never track back (sometimes he does this with a midfield duo too..) and play lot closer to the opponent goal. As near to it as Jovetic did last week maybe...
Also dont forget Fernandinho who can be a great box-to-box and arrive up to attacks behind Yaya, can make a long shot, can put it behind the defence, we didnt se much of these last season as he was used a def. midfielder which meant his attacking abilities were cut out of his game most of the time.
This two things, Fernandinho with more forward runs causing some Pool players have to track him also Yaya playing lot closer to goal (with a long shot from 20 meters he can score any moment...) we pprobably can be just as attacking if we would have two strikers on the pitch.
As Pellegrini said dzeko now finally does all the right runs too to involve others into attacks and if those small places are found by others like Silva, Nasri, Navas then we can score goals with only one striker upfront. As long as he makes the important channels for others. Good example was vs Newcastle first goal, Dzeko moves to the left, Silva (and Jovetic) arriving well for the open place, great assist and good goal. In that goal we knew we want it to do like this, and very hard for defenders to think 2-3 steps ahead of us.
Pool is a very good team, with a very good attacking style, that causes all sort of problems to any team they play when they are on top form. Now they arent yet probably but neither are we...
We struggled against their attacks last season in both games, both games we easily could have conceded more than we ended up ith, wonder how high line our defence will be now, because on counters vs Sturridge, Sterling it could get nasty. Coutinho is rea talent, while Gerrard can pick some long passes so we have to make sure none of these great assists are going trough, and not just react to when they are already being put behind the defence. From watching back City-Pool games from last season, we have to improve in these defensively.
With Skrtel and Lovren at them, corners must be defended very well, would be cheap to go behind or even drop points because of a corner goal. They are scoring fair amount of goals from set pieces so that is an extra danger tonight.
Maybe I am too defensive, but you know, if we could keep a clean sheet tonight, there is 99% that 3 points is ours.:)
If we concede 2-3 goals, we still can win but lose too and mostly we would draw and dont think a draw is good vs them at home. (Away from home yes...)
But lets win in 4-3:), even if my feeling is both managers will be little like "don not lose a big game this early", so expect a tight but not crazy game in terms of throwing everything into attacks.
1-0 or 2-1 to City.
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Stop the worrying and just remember the three R' s.
We R the champions.
We R playing at home.
We R going to win.
Enjoy the game boys and girls.
We R the champions.
We R playing at home.
We R going to win.
Enjoy the game boys and girls.
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Pissed off with myself.. Staying at the Hilton at the airport after the match and when I checked in earlier there was a group of guys in the reception including Uwe Rosler
Got a picture with him and asked if was at the game tonight.. He said yes
When I got to the car my missus said who was the player? I never even looked at anyone else once I'd clocked Uwe but he was apparently tanned, had a look of Sergio but a little taller and had highlights...
My one chance of being an ITK and I blew it
Got a picture with him and asked if was at the game tonight.. He said yes
When I got to the car my missus said who was the player? I never even looked at anyone else once I'd clocked Uwe but he was apparently tanned, had a look of Sergio but a little taller and had highlights...
My one chance of being an ITK and I blew it
MC ID said:pikku said:Going with three in the CM would be the safer option as we are likely to get overrun in the midfield.Liverpool have got very direct and pacy players upfront.
I was thinking the same, the sheer pace has made our matches much harder than they should be, a midfield 3 should go along way to stopping that.
I'd be surprised if we went with the three of Yaya, Fernando and Fernandinho. Seen no sign of any interest on Pellegrini's part in playing a 4-3-3 previously, and I'd be amazed if he went with Yaya as one of the three in a 4-2-3-1 - if we were to play just one striker (and I don't think we will), I'm sure he'd prefer to have Silva in behind Dzeko or Aguero.
I don't expect us to get overrun in midfield anyway, irrespective of whether we play two or three in there. I think the key point will be how well we cope with their pressing all over the pitch, especially in the first 20 minutes or so. Even last season it was still fairly clear that we can struggle against teams that press us high and hard; if we can weather the first 20-30 minutes, when they no doubt will come tearing out at us, I'd expect us to go on and win.
When we played them in December I'm pretty sure we played 4-5-1 with Negredo as a lone striker. We were perhaps a shade fortunate that day but we still beat them and were getting over run in midfield. I've actually backtracked from a week ago because I said playing with 1 striker would help. I think playing with two and pushing on their centre backs will actually serve us better.
I'm pretty certain Kolarov also played this fixture last year. For me there will be one change tonight from Newcastle and that is at right back where I think we will see Sagna. I think if there is an outside chance of a suprise change it'll be navas for nasri.
Liverpool were toothless in this fixture last year, despite giving us a game.
3-1 city
I'm pretty certain Kolarov also played this fixture last year. For me there will be one change tonight from Newcastle and that is at right back where I think we will see Sagna. I think if there is an outside chance of a suprise change it'll be navas for nasri.
Liverpool were toothless in this fixture last year, despite giving us a game.
3-1 city
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I'm actually astonished! You've put the heating on? It's 14degrees! Bloody hell, women aren't half nesh!Eccles Blue said:Bilboblue said:How's the weather up there?
Been raining constantly for the last 4 hours down here in Southampton, going to leave at 1pm to allow plenty of time to get up.
What's the forecast like for around game time?
I've just given in to the cold and put on the heating............... honestly. I can't believe how cold it is in August.
Has to get to about 5degrees before the heating needs to be on for me. Even then it's on low and I stick a jumper on instead of raising the heating up.
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Nah, that's going east to west and it isn't getting better any time soon.jimharri said:Given that the weather usually travels west to east; if Manchester gets what we're currently getting, anyone in those uncovered corners (or on level 1) better bring a decent waterproof coat. Been pissing down for about 3-4 hours now.
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